assassin v. warrior (Throw edge in play)

LogFiend
January 17, 2016 03:11PM
*** Not saying that I think edges in general are overpowered (I am a fan. More please.), but I'm soooo tired of people 
*** telling everyone on the forum that edges aren't that big of a deal and you don't need them to compete.
*** Without an edge, the Assassin would not be able to throw the warrior at all, much less automatically on a missed bash.
*** In this battle, an edge basically did 200 dam, lagged warrior for 6 rounds and hyperextended warriors elbow.
*** You'll notice that even without resist and deathblow, the warrior (100% mace spec) would not have won.
*** And respect to assassin for only taking 1 average item + coins. Warrior was pretty stacked and assassin was not.

You slam into Dark-elf Assassin, and send him flying!
Your bash grazes Dark-elf Assassin.
Dark-elf Assassin yells 'Help! Duergar Warrior is bashing me!'
Dark-elf Assassin has a few scratches.

civilized <100%hp 100%m 78%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 1 AM> 
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
Dark-elf Assassin deflects your smash with his shield.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin has a few scratches.

civilized <100%hp 100%m 78%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 1 AM> bash Dark-elf Assassin

Dark-elf Assassin trips you and you go down!
Dark-elf Assassin's trip grazes you.
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
You dodge Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
Dark-elf Assassin's slash maims you!
Your smash EVISCERATES Dark-elf Assassin!
Dark-elf Assassin deflects your smash with his shield.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <91%hp 100%m 78%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 1 AM> 
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
You dodge Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
Dark-elf Assassin parries your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your crush.
Dark-elf Assassin parries your crush.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <91%hp 100%m 78%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 1 AM> You fall flat on your face!
Your bash misses Dark-elf Assassin.
Dark-elf Assassin throws you to the ground with stunning force.
Dark-elf Assassin's throw EVISCERATES you!
Dark-elf Assassin's slash MUTILATES you!
You dodge Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin deflects your crush with his shield.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <75%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> Dark-elf Assassin grabs hold of your wrist and twists it violently!
Dark-elf Assassin's kotegaeshi MUTILATES you!
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <67%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> backh

Dark-elf Assassin's slash EVISCERATES you!
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin parries your crush.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <58%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> 
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
Your smash misses Dark-elf Assassin.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your crush.
Dark-elf Assassin parries your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <58%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> 
Dark-elf Assassin stops using a spiked buckler.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <58%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> 
Dark-elf Assassin throws you to the ground with stunning force.
Dark-elf Assassin's throw EVISCERATES you!
Controlling your fall, Dark-elf Assassin painfully hyperextends your elbow!
Dark-elf Assassin's ground control EVISCERATES you!
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <39%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> 
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
Dark-elf Assassin delivers a blow of deadly force!
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's punch.
Dark-elf Assassin's punch EVISCERATES you!
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your crush.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <30%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> flee

With a quick twist you move to the side of Dark-elf Assassin's slash.
You dodge Dark-elf Assassin's punch.
Dark-elf Assassin's punch DISMEMBERS you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your crush.
Dark-elf Assassin dodges your smash.
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <19%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> You bring the clawed club of skull-bone about with a compact backhand swing at Dark-elf Assassin.
Your backhanded blow EVISCERATES Dark-elf Assassin!
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <19%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> Dark-elf Assassin throws you to the ground with stunning force.
Dark-elf Assassin's throw EVISCERATES you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
Dark-elf Assassin has some small but disgusting cuts.

civilized <9%hp 100%m 83%mv 1895tnl (80.66%) 2 AM> 
Dark-elf Assassin's slash devastates you!
You sure are BLEEDING!
You parry Dark-elf Assassin's punch.
Dark-elf Assassin delivers a blow of deadly force!
Dark-elf Assassin's slash DISMEMBERS you!
You have been KILLED!!
Subject Author Views Posted

assassin v. warrior (Throw edge in play)

LogFiend 451 January 17, 2016 03:11PM

Eh my experience is warrior > assassin usually

Nurok 226 January 18, 2016 04:50AM

I don't get the "new" system

Carrock 351 January 17, 2016 04:56PM

Assassin can outtank anything with normal melee

daurwyn(VIP) 282 January 17, 2016 09:20PM

Well

dhargor 274 January 17, 2016 05:13PM

Some analysis

Carrock 337 January 17, 2016 06:38PM

Re: Some analysis

FrostyTheGiant 283 January 17, 2016 06:46PM

Re: Some analysis

Carrock 325 January 17, 2016 06:56PM

Re: Some analysis

FrostyTheGiant 273 January 17, 2016 07:01PM

A couple more things on looking at the fight again

FrostyTheGiant 274 January 17, 2016 06:56PM

Dunno about misses. Even with high hitroll I've experienced misses quite often, granted mostly observed vs mobs but in PK too. (n/t)

Calion 208 January 18, 2016 06:33AM

High hitroll won't stop all misses

daurwyn(VIP) 195 January 18, 2016 09:28AM

Didn't umi suggest weapon weight affected dodge chance as well? (n/t)

demos 170 January 17, 2016 07:29PM

Maces/axes became easier to dodge way while ago, then they added weight bonuses to it.

jalim 202 January 18, 2016 02:09AM

Good point (nt)

Carrock 230 January 17, 2016 06:57PM

Before Cainasir the majority of my characters were high str/con low dex.

Rhyaldrin 244 January 17, 2016 06:41PM

And tactics. Assassin wearing shield, instead of bash, his next command should have been offhand/deflect shield because he already knew the assassin's plan was to lag.

Sam 226 January 17, 2016 05:15PM

He actually removed the shield himself, why waste 2 rounds? (n/t)

Murphy 174 January 17, 2016 05:23PM

Good call. Boneshatter (if he has it?) or backhand then? NT

Sam 161 January 17, 2016 07:49PM



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