Re: Some analysis

January 17, 2016 06:46PM
Skill percents matter a lot here. Is mace even perfected on this duergar? What's his sword skill? How are his defenses? If he is 28 why the hell isn't he boneshattering?

Also, it really does not look like he had the +stats to cover that kotegaeshi. The fight goes downhill quickly after the kote.

What you have here is a warrior with a mace assuming he automatically dicks on assassins and starts spamming lag instead of doing what he needs to do to win the fight. Furthermore, counting who hits more is a shitty metric because you're not factoring in total hp. Duergar warrior is SUPPOSED to tank worse than dark-elf assassin. You only need to hit dark-elf assassin about three times to kill him.

I get so sick of people who bitch about high dex races being overpowered when all they try to do is lag them and think they should win the fight. That's not how it works, nor should it. This fight looks fairly winnable for the duergar, if instead of bashing (one of which he missed and ate a retaliatory throw) he was backhanding, you have at least 3-4 more backhands, maybe even 5-6 dependent on if the assassin used the same exact skills. All of a sudden this fight starts to look a lot different.
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assassin v. warrior (Throw edge in play)

LogFiend 451 January 17, 2016 03:11PM

Eh my experience is warrior > assassin usually

Nurok 226 January 18, 2016 04:50AM

I don't get the "new" system

Carrock 351 January 17, 2016 04:56PM

Assassin can outtank anything with normal melee

daurwyn(VIP) 282 January 17, 2016 09:20PM

Well

dhargor 274 January 17, 2016 05:13PM

Some analysis

Carrock 337 January 17, 2016 06:38PM

Re: Some analysis

FrostyTheGiant 282 January 17, 2016 06:46PM

Re: Some analysis

Carrock 325 January 17, 2016 06:56PM

Re: Some analysis

FrostyTheGiant 273 January 17, 2016 07:01PM

A couple more things on looking at the fight again

FrostyTheGiant 274 January 17, 2016 06:56PM

Dunno about misses. Even with high hitroll I've experienced misses quite often, granted mostly observed vs mobs but in PK too. (n/t)

Calion 208 January 18, 2016 06:33AM

High hitroll won't stop all misses

daurwyn(VIP) 195 January 18, 2016 09:28AM

Didn't umi suggest weapon weight affected dodge chance as well? (n/t)

demos 170 January 17, 2016 07:29PM

Maces/axes became easier to dodge way while ago, then they added weight bonuses to it.

jalim 202 January 18, 2016 02:09AM

Good point (nt)

Carrock 230 January 17, 2016 06:57PM

Before Cainasir the majority of my characters were high str/con low dex.

Rhyaldrin 244 January 17, 2016 06:41PM

And tactics. Assassin wearing shield, instead of bash, his next command should have been offhand/deflect shield because he already knew the assassin's plan was to lag.

Sam 225 January 17, 2016 05:15PM

He actually removed the shield himself, why waste 2 rounds? (n/t)

Murphy 173 January 17, 2016 05:23PM

Good call. Boneshatter (if he has it?) or backhand then? NT

Sam 161 January 17, 2016 07:49PM



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