Let's break this down

December 16, 2008 08:44AM
> Tremblefist is often used to store items taken by Scions and Empire,

I believe only an orc can give an item to tremblefist to store. I doubt either scions or empire would take the head and then give it to an orc instead of hold it (since imms tend to frown on this) any more than other cabals do, village included. More likely, Alzinghul was with one or other when they raided. So arguably he has as much of a right as any.

> and it is the one cabal the forces higher level characters to retrieve as opposed to the lowbies that are so often used to retrieve by all cabals.

I like this. Heroes shouldn't wuss out of retrieving in most of the circumstances that they do.

> The entire area causes loss of morale, illness and plague, which although is only a minor inconvenience to a prep whore must be a nightmare for a villager without the head.

I've been into this village a lot, including as a non-orc, and I never get plagued in most of the village.

> Tremblefist can store cabal items, which levels the playing field when they fight fortress or outlander, but it would give orcs (and their allies) a huge advantage against the Battleragers.

And when village have the head, the boot is on the other foot, is it not?

> Fortress, Outlander, and Battle's only recourse is to slaughter orcs mercilessly at every opportunity because raiding this non-cabal is pointless since it neither needs to be defended nor punishes orcs should they refuse to defend.

So what you are saying is that it is too hard to retrieve, but orcs should be obliged to make it harder for you? Orcs never have cabal powers. Ever. Plus they have a HUGE disadvantage in that when they recall, you know exactly where they recall to, and it is impossible for them to change it.
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Nothing feels better than a little payback after you get ganked mercilessly.

LogFiend 991 December 16, 2008 12:20AM

Orc orc orc. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) 316 December 16, 2008 05:56AM

One more thing I hate.

Pro 594 December 17, 2008 03:16PM

BOATBOATBOAT! nt

Batman 336 December 16, 2008 06:00AM

*Yawn* No-power ragers trying to get the head with a broke guardian.

aussie13 532 December 16, 2008 01:37AM

I watched Isendor and Volubryotr kill Tremblefist in five rounds some time ago, so you're overestimating the guy nt

camist 454 December 16, 2008 01:23PM

Ya, I was talking about villagers raiding to get their item with no powers. Any two paladins can raid..

aussie13 437 December 16, 2008 09:36PM

Orcs aren't vulnerable holy.~

ExPaladin(VIP) 336 December 17, 2008 07:30AM

Re: Ya, I was talking about villagers raiding to get their item with no powers. Any two paladins can raid..

panir 390 December 17, 2008 06:28AM

I like it

daurwyn(VIP) 509 December 16, 2008 08:28AM

Oh wait, does it mean that orcs are OP?! Lol n/t

Elhe 418 December 16, 2008 03:01AM

No, it means their non-cabal, cabal-style guardian is bs

Quixotic 463 December 16, 2008 05:29AM

Normally you are level-headed, so I say this. Play an orc, then get back to me.

Sam 480 December 16, 2008 01:41PM

To answer your profanity with profanity

Quixotic 529 December 16, 2008 06:07PM

Back at you

daurwyn(VIP) 385 December 17, 2008 01:42PM

Re: To answer your profanity with profanity

WarEagle 452 December 16, 2008 07:12PM

Heh, thanks. (txt)

Quixotic 396 December 17, 2008 09:34AM

Re: Heh, thanks. (txt)

Scrimbul 443 December 17, 2008 09:44AM

Re: "Capture Teh Flag"

Quixotic 378 December 17, 2008 11:36AM

"After I got home" edit

Quixotic 446 December 17, 2008 12:53PM

I'll take that Ehren Nexun for you. NT

Batman 451 December 17, 2008 01:00PM

Re: "Capture Teh Flag"

Scrimbul 440 December 17, 2008 12:48PM

Let's break this down

daurwyn(VIP) 494 December 16, 2008 08:44AM

Few points.

aussie13 577 December 16, 2008 11:37AM

I haven't disputed that lowbies can't retrieve

daurwyn(VIP) 442 December 16, 2008 02:03PM

Ya, well if you were a lowbie villager you would think differently about that situation.

aussie13 383 December 16, 2008 09:30PM

If the Commander is ordering you to retrieve against Tremblefist as a lowbie, you should be talking to Kastellyn or another rager imm.

Scrimbul 576 December 16, 2008 10:48PM

Orcs shouldn't be able to down an Item of power unless there is an item of power to be taken in my opinion.

aussie13 594 December 17, 2008 01:18AM

wrong

daurwyn(VIP) 435 December 17, 2008 07:11AM

Not nearly as bad at all. Get in trouble and blinded? Quaff a return, problem solved. nt

aussie13 358 December 17, 2008 07:21PM

If you're getting nailed by Tremblefist you need more -svs

NeverMindTheWarlocks 554 December 17, 2008 04:12AM

It just cracks me up people are whining about orcs. ORCS!!!!

Sam 542 December 17, 2008 09:18AM

No one I know of thinks that the Village is OP. NT

Sam 382 December 16, 2008 01:43PM

Ya im sorry, I meant everyone that bitches about Deathblow being OP. nt

aussie13 376 December 16, 2008 09:24PM

Re: Let's break this down

Blackbird 489 December 16, 2008 09:13AM

Re: Let's break this down

daurwyn(VIP) 430 December 16, 2008 01:16PM

So which rager are you?~

Enbuergo 408 December 16, 2008 02:53AM

Good log nt

zanzarin 343 December 16, 2008 01:30AM

What a douche you took the gauntlets even though you had a pair?

johnnyboy07 499 December 16, 2008 12:30AM

Sorry he took your gauntlets, im surprised you didnt whine about it IC n/t

hopelessdwarf 415 December 16, 2008 06:16AM

Not whining at all just saying it makes him a douche lol nt

johnnyboy07 396 December 16, 2008 09:06AM

so is ganking him in voralia several times. If I was Alzinghul I woulda dropped a serious partial loot hammer n/t

hopelessdwarf 443 December 16, 2008 09:54PM

Yeah, you're right, two villagers hunting an orc over magi in range is the non-douchey move in this log.

Sam 424 December 16, 2008 01:39PM

I like you but I call BS here Dabull stxt

icthaen 433 December 16, 2008 07:37PM

homeboy likes to point fingers a lot, doesn't he? Ignore his ass.~

Blackbird 411 December 18, 2008 06:42AM

Not sure what the hell your talking about to be honest

johnnyboy07 466 December 16, 2008 03:44PM

I was a bit harsh...

Sam 452 December 16, 2008 04:54PM

Are we now whining about one extra looted item? Why you didn't tell me about new whine rules! Bastard! nt

zanzarin 365 December 16, 2008 01:32AM

Did you even read the log or just looked at the last eq? n/t

asthiss 340 December 16, 2008 01:28AM

Orc actually did take two pairs of eog gauntlets nt

zanzarin 333 December 16, 2008 01:31AM



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