I agree, except with your last line, that's one of the most hilarious things I've read!

September 19, 2013 04:14AM
I play to 95% evil chars, and I have NEVER died with ANY char in a 1vs1 against a monk. EVER. I have however, killed a bunch of Maran/Acolyte/Trib/Herald monks with: AP, Warrior and shifters. (Never played invoker and my drow Outlander trannie attempt was a big failure.)

Invokers can, in the right hands, be insane! But, if you're not used to or good with invokers they're... Well, hard to land kills with.

I'd say that 90% of the invokers I never fear unless they have a gang to support them with lag and/or summons. The other 10% however... Holy hell they scare the shit out of me! Either because they're so good with hunting or that they always have earthbind on the go.


Lvl 20 earthbind rod = works against all classes that makes use of potions/scrolls to fly. However, I agree, against a Maran or a class that can cast/commune flight, it's useless. But most potions/scrolls of flight are lvl 5-25. (VERY few are lvl 40+)

So... All in all I say:

SOME invokers are broken.
NO monks are broken.

Coming from a guy that's spent a lot of time fighting both classes but NEVER played either. ;)
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Dzeffo 592 September 17, 2013 03:42AM

You were tough as nails. Israh couldn't anything to you. nt

Drokk 277 September 21, 2013 02:23AM

I have survived your rot once.. with 4 con, one more tick and i would be dead ;)nt

Dzeffo 253 September 22, 2013 08:19AM

There was nothing my A-P's could do to you

Elystan 390 September 17, 2013 03:48AM

Yes, almost, but

Dzeffo 388 September 17, 2013 03:52AM

Cleave?

daurwyn(VIP) 308 September 18, 2013 03:01AM

Invokers are kinda broken.

Death_Claw 451 September 17, 2013 09:59AM

They aren't broken

Dzeffo 424 September 17, 2013 11:55PM

Re: They aren't broken

Death_Claw 369 September 19, 2013 02:07AM

Missinfo here. You wish to argue, but don't know what you are talking about

Dzeffo 350 September 19, 2013 02:55AM

The level 20 one is fine.

Death_Claw 322 September 19, 2013 09:55AM

Re: The level 20 one is fine.

miyatzi 312 September 19, 2013 11:04PM

20%, not 30%.

DurNominator(VIP) 325 September 20, 2013 04:36AM

I agree, except with your last line, that's one of the most hilarious things I've read!

deriveh 441 September 19, 2013 04:14AM

I once landed a full earthbind on Rydell with that level 20 rod (n/t)

Elystan 260 September 19, 2013 04:20AM

Shit yeah monks are OP as all hell (n/t)

Elystan 246 September 18, 2013 12:11AM

Gangbang > OP

Wendigotorn 317 September 17, 2013 11:13AM

What kind of argument is that?

Death_Claw 259 September 19, 2013 02:20AM

Invokers by design were supposed to have an answer for everything..

Wendigotorn 302 September 19, 2013 04:02AM

This. A fully prepped and spread invoker is a nightmare.

Batman 327 September 19, 2013 04:11AM

being able to make them runaway with deafen is no small thing

Quas 287 September 17, 2013 11:07AM

Running away is a small thing to me.

Death_Claw 348 September 17, 2013 09:59PM

you forgot to include a shig-ru orc. You can perma lag them with rush;flee;rush;flee

Quas 344 September 20, 2013 04:34AM

How to kill invoker

Dzeffo 325 September 18, 2013 12:08AM

Re: How to kill invoker

Death_Claw 378 September 19, 2013 02:14AM

Funny, why you are not playing one then?

Dzeffo 289 September 19, 2013 03:05AM

Four...

Death_Claw 334 September 19, 2013 09:57AM

You are overthinking, shielded orc or warrior is all you need

ExPaladin 344 September 18, 2013 01:20AM

You are drunk... shields will be dispeled and aren't let you bash another voker through greater shield nt

Dzeffo 277 September 18, 2013 03:51AM

Re: You are drunk... shields will be dispeled and aren't let you bash another voker through greater shield nt

Sam 326 September 20, 2013 07:58AM

actually any lesser shield lets you bash through any greater shield, so if I got earthshield or watershield (both available from tats) and you are using shield of flames I can still bash you down (n/t)

Quas 243 September 20, 2013 04:36AM

Yeah, they do. And invokers don't usually open with dispel on a warrior

ExPaladin 333 September 18, 2013 12:39PM

With decent svs and no spellcraft the chance is, how shall I put this

Elystan 327 September 17, 2013 11:13AM

It really isn't

daurwyn(VIP) 277 September 18, 2013 03:08AM

I fought AP's as a mastery level voker and they could easily deafen me before they died

Quas 319 September 17, 2013 12:12PM

Intonation adept. Generally a good edge to have. Is it amazing? No but it can save your life. (n/t)

tesline 264 September 17, 2013 02:53PM

Waste of an edge

Quas 291 September 17, 2013 03:46PM

Which is why I said it was useful for an invoker. (n/t)

tesline 283 September 17, 2013 04:34PM

getting 1 in 20 spells to cast might help you retreat, its certainly not going to let you fight back

Quas 278 September 20, 2013 04:38AM

Possibly. I killed a fort invoker as dreadlord, but Matgelvon always had a ton of levels on me when we fought (n/t)

Elystan 271 September 17, 2013 12:16PM

Hehe, tons levels above = 5 last time and 6 first time, you died only twice nt

Dzeffo 233 September 17, 2013 05:20PM

5-6 levels I think is enough to reduce a 50% chance to about a 10% chance

Elystan 254 September 18, 2013 12:03AM

Sure it doesn't work that way, svs does

Dzeffo 274 September 18, 2013 12:20AM

Level matters

daurwyn(VIP) 285 September 19, 2013 03:06AM

Yeah that was pure guesswork

Elystan 293 September 18, 2013 01:13AM

Level absolutely does make a difference.

Death_Claw 264 September 19, 2013 02:22AM

Saves can't always save you from the 1001 shaman. (n/t)

sevriis 257 September 17, 2013 10:51AM



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