Re: Yea, and my argument wasn't that you won't die due to mistypes (totally possible with aliases) or lose kills due to poor targetting, but rather than you can't *win* fights you'd otherwise be losing...

March 14, 2017 08:03AM
I'll agree with the fact that it won't WIN fights for you in most situations, but it still gives an unfair advantage-- there's no denying that.

The exception, of course, is that if you are playing a class that relies on re-initiating: Like a sleep, blackjack, wither, etc. It totally nullifies any chance of you being able to pull that off unless you blind first.

My stance is that automation = cheating. I'm sure plenty of people here will lie to themselves to try and make themselves feel better about it, but it's pretty undeniable.

I've gotten pretty good over the years of being able to predict when someone is about to flee and have "trip XXX" ready to go and waiting to enter the direction that they flee in to catch them... But then triggers/automation comes into play and it's like someone training for the Olympics only to have some dickhead with bionic legs breeze past you without ever training a day in their life.

Your skill in a game should be based on your skill.

Now I feel bad about myself for comparing getting good at a MUD to training for the Olympics, but... hopefully you see the point.
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Koidel's goodbyes.

shaapa 470 March 11, 2017 04:06PM

Koidel was awesome by the way.

laearrist 258 March 15, 2017 04:56AM

Enjoyed my interactions with him too. (n/t)

KoeKhaos 154 March 15, 2017 08:59AM

Re: Koidel's goodbyes.

IzhGena 208 March 14, 2017 08:52PM

Noone played Solace here

Kstatida 237 March 15, 2017 05:58AM

You need to edit this post

anta 220 March 15, 2017 10:47AM

Re: Koidel's goodbyes.

shaapa 239 March 14, 2017 09:06PM

your post edits are insane...heh nt

The Forsaken(VIP) 123 March 15, 2017 04:11AM

Re: Koidel's goodbyes.

bufu 234 March 13, 2017 09:24AM

Cosign.

Matrik 256 March 13, 2017 02:34PM

Re: Cosign.

wasted 266 March 13, 2017 04:06PM

Intentionally obtuse is still obtuse. (n/t)

Matrik 129 March 13, 2017 06:49PM

Acting like a 4 year old rarely helps discussions. themoreyouknow (n/t)

Frosty 130 March 13, 2017 04:34PM

Re: Cosign.

Isildur(VIP) 262 March 13, 2017 03:39PM

Your triggers make your characters too predictable. I already know your new character.

wasted 220 March 13, 2017 09:15AM

Triggers aren't cheating. If you can't beat his triggers, you can't beat him without them either. (n/t)

laearrist 118 March 13, 2017 09:55AM

Ummm... If you could take Shaapa out of your mouth for a second, try "Help rules" -- triggers have always been cheating. (n/t)

wasted 128 March 13, 2017 10:13AM

Honestly it doesn't give him THAT much advantage. I agree with laearrist that if you can't beat him with them you'll still very likely not be able to beat him without them. (n/t)

Frosty 128 March 13, 2017 12:20PM

1) Help rules

laearrist 206 March 13, 2017 02:53PM

Not sure if they still do this...

Death_Claw 149 March 15, 2017 06:04AM

Several years back..

Java 140 March 17, 2017 02:44AM

Not anymore. (n/t)

Frosty 145 March 15, 2017 07:09AM

Not necessarily true. I have died and lost kills due to mispelling words and not having any aliases/targetting systems/triggers. NT

Sam 129 March 13, 2017 04:19PM

You don't counter his argument (n/t)

Kstatida 126 March 14, 2017 12:35AM

People also had died from their own triggers. (n/t)

Murphy 128 March 13, 2017 04:20PM

Yea, and my argument wasn't that you won't die due to mistypes (totally possible with aliases) or lose kills due to poor targetting, but rather than you can't *win* fights you'd otherwise be losing... (n/t)

laearrist 128 March 13, 2017 04:57PM

Re: Yea, and my argument wasn't that you won't die due to mistypes (totally possible with aliases) or lose kills due to poor targetting, but rather than you can't *win* fights you'd otherwise be losing...

wasted 162 March 14, 2017 08:03AM

Re: Yea, and my argument wasn't that you won't die due to mistypes (totally possible with aliases) or lose kills due to poor targetting, but rather than you can't *win* fights you'd otherwise be losing...

Kstatida 158 March 15, 2017 05:25AM

Not necessarily.

Frosty 187 March 15, 2017 11:31AM

I have made my first trigger when 14 years old

Kstatida 115 March 17, 2017 11:09AM

Re: Yea, and my argument wasn't that you won't die due to mistypes (totally possible with aliases) or lose kills due to poor targetting, but rather than you can't *win* fights you'd otherwise be losing...

laearrist 172 March 14, 2017 09:00AM

Wrong.

Matrik 188 March 14, 2017 10:31AM

Well I'm about 350 cpm

Kstatida 135 March 15, 2017 05:38AM

Real talk, before playing MUDs I was at 40-60 words a minute, now I'm probably at 70-90. NT

Sam 160 March 14, 2017 02:25PM

Before playing MUDs I typed with one finger. (n/t)

Murphy 121 March 14, 2017 09:34PM

My grandfather played muds typing with just index fingers. (n/t)

Matrik 159 March 15, 2017 06:48AM

Mine played with some sort of stick and fish rigging. I still don't understand it completely.

MiyagiYojimbo 169 March 15, 2017 07:17AM

125-150 wpm last I tested.

Matrik 185 March 14, 2017 06:01PM

Pretty sure I could hit 110 if mistakes are allowed :) NT

Sam 123 March 15, 2017 03:29PM

Nobody is stopping you from using your own chase triggers. I agree chase triggers are "cheating" but I didn't make the game so I don't make the rules. (n/t)

Frosty 160 March 14, 2017 08:10AM

What a novel concept (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 117 March 14, 2017 08:21AM

And furthermore (higher on soapbox) if tirggers/aliases offer such a HUGE competitive advantage, and yet are easily done, that is bad game design. You don't fix bad game design by telling the players to play less well in a competitive game. (n/t)

laearrist 136 March 13, 2017 05:01PM

Only 'fix' would be that we are only able to login through CF's MUD Client... and that would be terrible. :( (n/t)

wasted 116 March 14, 2017 07:42AM

Re: 1) Help rules

wasted 151 March 13, 2017 04:03PM

No, people are trying to explain something to you. You don't agree, and called people explaining things to you "circlejerking" which they were not. (n/t)

Frosty 127 March 13, 2017 04:31PM

Looks like the circle just got bigger! Bwahaha! (n/t)

wasted 176 March 13, 2017 09:35PM

You're one to talk about circles getting bigger. (n/t)

Frosty 157 March 13, 2017 09:52PM

We talking buttholes? I hope we're talking buttholes. (n/t)

wasted 113 March 14, 2017 07:43AM

Are we ever NOT talking about buttholes? ;) (n/t)

Frosty 160 March 14, 2017 08:09AM

This subthread is QHCF in its most pure and concentrated form. (n/t)

TheShamanman 196 March 14, 2017 09:23AM

Did you mean to reply to wasted? I didn't say it was cheating. (n/t)

Frosty 133 March 13, 2017 02:57PM

yes (n/t)

laearrist 130 March 13, 2017 03:06PM

It's not unknown and imms don't seem to be cracking down so it's likely not cheating in their book.

Quas 159 March 13, 2017 12:08PM

It used to be cracked down on back in the day... But right now we have about 4 active IMMs so I'm sure lots of stuff gets overlooked, sadly. (n/t)

wasted 115 March 13, 2017 12:16PM

Your days are over

Kstatida 179 March 13, 2017 12:38PM

GTFO? Naw, I think I'll just keep feasting on your cheating nooblets. (n/t)

wasted 130 March 13, 2017 02:07PM

Bring it on, motherfucker!

Kstatida 149 March 13, 2017 11:50PM

Haha, you wish you were that cool. (n/t)

Frosty 130 March 14, 2017 06:47AM

Anyone who screams triggers is probably a trigger user and cheater himself. (n/t)

Murphy 127 March 13, 2017 04:19PM

Re: Anyone who screams triggers is probably a trigger user and cheater himself.

wasted 190 March 13, 2017 09:29PM

the word you're looking for is "realistic"

Murphy 179 March 13, 2017 09:52PM

Nope (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 116 March 14, 2017 03:38AM

Sounds convincing :) (n/t)

Kstatida 113 March 14, 2017 03:44AM

You were also allowed to go to hell with people you knew too(not gunna let up on them about that until they 'splain themselves). ;) Things change. (n/t)

Frosty 122 March 13, 2017 12:23PM

a very good paladin, well done

The Forsaken(VIP) 255 March 13, 2017 04:56AM

question... how did you log both your chars in at the same time?

The Forsaken(VIP) 180 March 13, 2017 12:16PM

You and I need to break from this habit.

K-B 287 March 12, 2017 06:01PM

He'd have to have risk written into his client's bot, that has to be vetted and approved first ;) (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 149 March 12, 2017 06:27PM

Just like players have to be OOC vetted and approved before you let them join your cabal.

Matrik 246 March 12, 2017 07:41PM

;) (n/t)

Kstatida 108 March 12, 2017 11:22PM

Burn (n/t)

NbM(VIP) 180 March 12, 2017 07:56PM

Good. Delete. I tire of fighting your client. You cheat with each of your characters and then wonder why no one wants to play with you. Take your automated football home Charlie Brown, no one wants to play with a cheater. (n/t)

funnyone 134 March 12, 2017 10:38AM

You will have even less enemies with monk builds imo, don't do it!

badboy 186 March 12, 2017 10:21AM

Stupid bat spammer

Kstatida 310 March 12, 2017 01:53AM



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