June 30, 2015 01:17PM
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Ok. Most of the examples you gave do not include consent. Minors can't enter into legal contracts. Neither can dogs. Those examples aren't even remotely in the realm of this conversation and frankly I expect better of you. No matter how many times you say that this opens the doors up for pedophilia, that just isn't true and you know it.
Polygamy is another interesting topic, and I'm not really against it either.. it would just require a lot more work re-writing laws to make that happen. But if that case somehow gets up to the Supreme Court, I could see it going the same way.
My point about protected classes is that the Constitution itself isn't limited to them. You can't say that the 14th Amendment only applies to protected classes because the text of the Constitution does not support that claim. The rest of your argument in that regard is kind of irrelevant. Some protected classes being automatically heavily scrutinized doesn't somehow remove the scrutiny from non-protected classes.
Your statement that "The fourteenth amendment has nothing to do with extending all privileges to all individuals equally." is patently false, as the exact text of the Amendment contradicts it: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"
I left that second part in there about due process, because it answers some of your questions. Convicted felons can't get concealed carry permits, true. I'm not sure why you brought up the draft.. getting drafted isn't a privilege.
Ultimately you wrote a two-page essay saying the exact same thing you said before. "Hetero-marriage" is a privilege, but "marriage" isn't. I'm not sure where you get that argument from, but I don't think it's legally founded. You're still discriminating based on sexual preference, and while that isn't (yet) a protected class, it certainly is still discriminating against a portion of the population.
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