Well, I'll try to cut it in pieces

January 26, 2017 01:12AM
1.

The think tank itself is not anti-globalist or pro-globalist, it's pro-Russian. If globalists agenda was pro-Russian, they would have it, if anti-globalists agenda was pro-Russian, they would have it. Sadly, neither is pro-Russian :)

It is widely believed, however, that Trump being the actor for american national interests can be the subject of meaningful negotiations because American national interests vs Russian national interests is type of negotiations where consensus can be achieved.

It is also widely believed that Clinton being the actor for globalists interests can not be the subject of meaningful negotiations because there is no point of negotiations. If negotiations were held, that would be Russian national interests vs the global goal of erasing the national sovereignity worldwide. There's no possible point of consensus.

Hence short- and mid-term, anti-globalists are better than globalists.

2.
At the same time, in the intellectual circles it is widely believed that if globalists stay in power with fundation of their world obviously crumbling, that would lead to series of dead wrong decisions most likely leading to war and subsequent destruction of United States as the "home base" of globalists movement and industrial country as well. One less competitor on a global scale longterm.

While America turning back to its national sovereignity under Trump while it's still fairly strong will lead to series of negotiations with strong power of bargain, most likely avoiding the full-scale conflict, with America retaining its position of one of the global leaders. One more competitor on a global scale longterm.

Hence long-term, globalists are better than anti-globalists, even if there is a great risk of war and shit. This is however questionable, because I think that longterm, order is better than chaos and reasonable negotiable competitor is still better than the whole continent of chaos and civil war.

3. On ISIS, bullet-point.

Wide belief is that globalists clique in U.S. has created ISIS.

Hence if it's people who have created it talk about warring it - we don't give a fuck. 2 past years have proven just that in the eyes of Russia. U.S. fights ISIS, but it increases its territory. What kind of fight is that?

Russia doesn't give a fuck about "getting on a good side of U.S.". Wide belief of anglo-saxon politics is that anglo-saxons don't care shit for morals, trust and agreements. You betray the moment it suits you, so having good reputation with you does not matter shit. The only way to have you like us is being weak and do what you say. We'd better have you not like us - that would mean we're following our goals, not yours.

Just like UK Prime Minister Disraeli said: "UK has no constant allies, only constant interests".

Dismantling ISIS is in the interests of Russia. So if U.S. anti-globalist government for whatever reason decides to destroy it as well, I'm sure we'll cooperate in no time. If it gives Trump or whomever means of upping his popularity and whatever - we don't care. Common goal - go bombers.

4.

We won't lean away from Iran. It's our neighbour, we have great cooperation and development projects, it's Caspian sea trade and oil, it's trans-caspian railroad, it's Iran Caspian-Persian sea channel project. We're full of cooperation with Iran, and we won't abandon it. U.S. thinks Iran is on axis of evil? We don't give a fuck. Also note that even 300 years ago, Russia had expansionist plans to conquer the whole of Persia (which is now Iran). Geography hasn't changed, the longterm synergy effect for that alliance/union would be fucking enormous.

5. On UN.

Russia does and will work with UN. In our eyes it's US that doesn't give a shit about it :) Like invading countries w/o UN SC resolution (see Yugoslavia, Iraq) and so forth. Note that Russian diplomats and UN representatives are all career diplomats, representative of Russia in UN SC is position second to only the Minister of Foreign Affairs. On the other hand U.S. representative to UN SC position is given to chicks like Sam Power who doesn't know shit about international affairs. So actually it's we who hope that US will return to work with UN on a greater level.


As you may see, the POVs are vastly different, and that's why are very interesting to grasp.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2017 02:05AM by Kstatida.
Subject Author Posted

Oil the flames

Kstatida January 23, 2017 10:52PM

Thanks for sharing.

Jib January 25, 2017 12:10PM

Well, I'll try to cut it in pieces

Kstatida January 26, 2017 01:12AM

This sounds about similar to CF cabal politics, lol. (n/t)

Murphy January 27, 2017 03:38PM

I don't think our point our views are that vastly different.

Jib January 26, 2017 09:55AM

I feel like your problem with globalism is a problem with capitalism in general

vortexmagus January 26, 2017 01:40PM

You are confusing true Capitalism with Corporatism.

Jib January 27, 2017 09:23AM

A truly free market always favors the rich and well-connected

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 09:25AM

Full stop. I'm saying globalism isn't capitalism. Period.

Jib January 27, 2017 11:47AM

Right, this is what I was saying, I was saying that you're blaming globalism for stuff that is inherent to all forms of capitalism.

vortexmagus January 28, 2017 11:18AM

He's blaming globalism for making that shit global (n/t)

Kstatida January 29, 2017 12:19AM

Dude, you know no shit, seriously

Kstatida January 27, 2017 09:42AM

No. No, they don't.

MiyagiYojimbo January 27, 2017 02:46PM

Geography isn't mandatory?

Murphy January 27, 2017 03:28PM

Want to know a secret?

MiyagiYojimbo January 27, 2017 06:10PM

Looks right to me. I wonder why all the blue islands have dragons. (n/t)

Matrik January 27, 2017 05:24PM

Haha. "Blue islands." #LAPR (n/t)

Murphy January 28, 2017 01:04AM

Think of it more like a poker game

Quas January 27, 2017 10:32AM

I'm confused at what point I mentioned a perfectly competitive market?

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 09:57AM

Exactly, so please don't use the term "free market"

Kstatida January 27, 2017 01:15PM

But what do we call your wife's vagina then? NT

Sam January 28, 2017 04:52PM

Think you meant dessert. (n/t)

Matrik January 28, 2017 05:14PM

Not when you give head. Dryer than a dessert. NT

Sam January 28, 2017 05:53PM

2/10 for effort.

Matrik January 28, 2017 06:21PM

C'mon, that's at least a 4/10 for the original subject line. NT

Sam January 28, 2017 06:38PM

No market is perfectly free and competitive, but functionally people advocate for deregulation of markets all the time. (n/t)

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 11:26PM

Please specify "people"

Kstatida January 28, 2017 12:57AM

Trump and Putin, to name two prominent ones. Their policies on oil and gas, in particular, are globalist and push deregulation. (n/t)

vortexmagus January 28, 2017 04:08PM

free market n/t

jalim January 27, 2017 01:39PM

This: but redistribution also tricky to implement without making it unfair for hardworking middle class or reducing incentives (n/t)

starbright January 26, 2017 10:01PM

Redistribution will ALWAYS reduce incentives.

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 08:20AM

Re: I don't think our point our views are that vastly different.

Kstatida January 26, 2017 12:20PM

It's a good article

Flipside Oreo January 24, 2017 04:29AM

That's a good article, I enjoyed reading it. Do you have more such articles from similar perspectives?

starbright January 24, 2017 12:20AM

I mean I agree with you on every count

vortexmagus January 24, 2017 04:55AM

I propose "Democratic Objective-Setting with Technocratic Execution" form of government

starbright January 24, 2017 05:53AM

Well that's a good question, but I can't think of any that are English-speaking.

Kstatida January 24, 2017 04:02AM



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