Parasitic.

October 06, 2008 06:57AM
I know this is apt in a strict definition of the word, but do you use it to intentionally to convey a negative connotation? Yes, it is a parasitic relationship (the fetus needs the mother to survive), but keep in mind that the mother welcomed this relationship by, well, having sex. Sex is for procreation, not enjoyment, regardless of whether you take the evolutionary perspective or a religious/biblical one. It feels good to encourage population growth, otherwise, who would ever want to do such a thing (because admit it, sex is kinda icky). :D

So I don't feel bad for women. By having sex they are inviting this parasite to make a cozy home in the belly. Seems kinda crass to say 'hey, come on in so I can kill you'. (I know, that's a bit reaching...)
Subject Author Posted

About abortion

deriveh October 05, 2008 02:53PM

Keep it safe, legal, and rare (nt)

doge October 08, 2008 03:43PM

Side question: Do you consider the morning after pill an abortion? nt

Java October 06, 2008 07:58PM

Re: Side question: Do you consider the morning after pill an abortion? nt

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 04:35AM

Then you'd also have to be opposed to most forms of birth control

Rade October 08, 2008 04:12PM

wife and i use natural family planning for precisely that reason. nt

Isildur(VIP) October 08, 2008 06:32PM

I'm not saying you're wrong

Rade October 09, 2008 04:48AM

I want to try framing this without using utility ethics, but...

burr October 06, 2008 05:15PM

The problem is you presuppose person

jegec October 06, 2008 06:00PM

Hey Ordrig, I'm still waiting on an answer to the question.

Java October 06, 2008 03:07PM

The entire debate is fairly meaningless anyway.

vortex_magus October 06, 2008 02:29PM

Actually,

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:06PM

Sperm meeting egg happens all the time, it is not surefire that a baby comes from it...

vortex_magus October 06, 2008 06:53PM

Can we just not discuss certain topics?

Lokain October 06, 2008 12:33PM

you're welcome ~

morocco October 06, 2008 06:56PM

I'm pro-life and pro-choice

morocco October 06, 2008 05:44AM

War is especially interesting in this vein

Rade October 06, 2008 02:57PM

Re: War is especially interesting in this vein

morocco October 06, 2008 06:54PM

That is quite possibly the dumbest post in the thread.

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:33AM

Everything has a use, including corporal punishment

morocco October 06, 2008 08:40AM

You are misrepresenting the position here. No thanks. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 09:11AM

I'm not misrepresenting my own position, promise. You're welcome anyway~

morocco October 06, 2008 09:14AM

The position being what I wrote. Your argument was like a straw man argument,

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 09:17AM

Sorry, I can't stop myself. I _think_ it was more like a hypothetical syllogism

morocco October 06, 2008 11:06AM

To continue this a bit more...

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 11:55AM

I agree with most of your sentiments immediately above

morocco October 06, 2008 06:39PM

What I got out of that...

niris October 06, 2008 04:30AM

Yep

jegec October 06, 2008 01:44PM

Pro-choice until the fetus is viable (~6 mos.)

Balrahd(VIP) October 05, 2008 10:05PM

Parasitic.

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:57AM

I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 11:27AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 01:40PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 02:17PM

woo hoo!

odrirg October 07, 2008 04:25AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 03:29PM

Re: I don't know

Yver October 06, 2008 08:53PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 04:30PM

"Force them into one over the other" Snort. And a side argument.

odrirg October 07, 2008 04:43AM

I'm dumber for having read that. nt

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 04:58AM

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that n/t

jegec October 07, 2008 09:42AM

I'm just following logic.

odrirg October 07, 2008 05:54AM

supremely flawed logic. txt

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 06:28AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 05:57PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 07:58PM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 04:56AM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 07, 2008 10:22AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 08, 2008 01:24PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 08, 2008 02:59PM

Yah, but,

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 11:39AM

Does a fetus have feelings? Who cares?

Rade October 06, 2008 03:10PM

Yeah I see your point

jegec October 06, 2008 11:46AM

In evolutionary terms procreation happens after the baby is born

morocco October 06, 2008 09:07AM

You made me so happy. Marry me? NT

Batman October 06, 2008 09:29AM

I can't. It's illegal in my state and immoral everywhere in the universe. Sorry :( ~

morocco October 06, 2008 11:07AM

"who would ever want to do such a thing (because admit it, sex is kinda icky). :D" Virgin. NT

Batman October 06, 2008 08:14AM

Married, kid coming in December. : ) But admit it...

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 09:04AM

No fucking way. :) Congrats on the kid btw. NT

Sam October 07, 2008 11:47AM

Yes. Consensual vaginal sex in the missionary position with a female of consenting age and legal mind-set for only the reason of procreation and spreading God's word NT

Batman October 06, 2008 09:28AM

"Then I saw her face... now I'm a believer!" nt

Yhorian(VIP) October 06, 2008 10:54AM

Re: Pro-choice until the fetus is viable (~6 mos.)

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:31AM

From the literature I've read I put it at 24 weeks (~6 mos.) - taking into account survival rate and health complications.

Balrahd(VIP) October 06, 2008 02:20PM

The mother is responsible for making that fetus as much as the father is.

Batman October 06, 2008 08:18AM

not so much. txt

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 10:11AM

Cancer, not instant death. Just something you have to live with until you die.

Batman October 06, 2008 10:18AM

Other than the grace of God goodness, not such a bad post.

Batman October 06, 2008 04:31AM

A respectable and admirable stance.

Sam October 05, 2008 10:20PM

I'm never going to be pregnant, so I don't give a fuck.~

Blackbird October 05, 2008 09:40PM

Abortion is fine.

cointreau October 05, 2008 06:49PM

Re: Abortion is fine.

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 08:17PM

3 months is plenty.

cointreau October 05, 2008 10:01PM

I would want a poll on this! Abortion yes or no?

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:25PM

Sounds fun, sure.

Batman October 06, 2008 04:30AM

Mmm protests

niris October 06, 2008 04:32AM

Re: About abortion

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 06:10PM

Re: About abortion

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:19PM

Re: About abortion

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 06:28PM

Okay, another angle!

deriveh October 07, 2008 11:21AM

Re: About abortion

Yver October 06, 2008 03:20AM

Re: About abortion

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:28AM

Re: About abortion

Yver October 06, 2008 09:02PM

Dammit!

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:30PM

Here's an analogy I find helpful.

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:06PM

What's your point?

Krilcov October 05, 2008 06:38PM

Seriously, kid. You try way too fucking hard. nt

Java October 05, 2008 08:33PM

At what?

Krilcov October 05, 2008 08:52PM

At living up to this lame persona you've been trying to build.

Java October 05, 2008 09:02PM

That's the thing, I don't have to try.

Krilcov October 05, 2008 09:27PM

Rob

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 07:07AM

Big reply to you, bud.

Batman October 06, 2008 08:33AM

Re: Big reply to you, bud.

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 10:01AM

My pleasure, I assure you.

Batman October 06, 2008 10:23AM

Re: Rob

Krilcov October 06, 2008 08:14AM

Re: Rob

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 09:53AM

You're not missing anything, except maybe my point, which seems to be lost on you.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 10:31AM

Logical reasons

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 11:24AM

This is more focused on the women herself, than the rights of the unborn child.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 12:32PM

Answers

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 10:43AM

I understand where you are coming from, I really do.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 10:56AM

Re: I understand where you are coming from, I really do.

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 11:15AM

Re: I understand where you are coming from, I really do.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 11:37AM

Yeah, from reading this, we REALLY disagree on moral grounds. NT

Batman October 06, 2008 10:25AM

You're only 15. What do you know? ~

Krilcov October 05, 2008 06:16PM

17, and you have your opinion below as well, I see? ~

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:17PM

Damn. Had you mistaken for someone else. ~

Krilcov October 05, 2008 06:31PM

That would be yourself. nt

DurNominator(VIP) October 06, 2008 11:30AM

Nah there was someone else who claimed they were the same age as me in some old age thread. But search likes to hang on me so I haven't bothered digging it up. For some reason I thought it was him who had said that. ~

Krilcov October 06, 2008 12:08PM

Search hangs on you because you post too fucking much

entropissed October 07, 2008 05:09AM

Interesting analogy

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:14PM

Women crush the egg's chance every month.

Batman October 05, 2008 06:10PM

Will the egg naturally develop into a human? No. Needs another ingredient, I think. nt

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:14PM

Will the baby naturally develop into a human?

Batman October 05, 2008 06:20PM

Eggs

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:31PM

Re: Eggs

jalbrin October 08, 2008 07:48AM

Thanks for understanding. NT

Batman October 06, 2008 04:12AM

I disagree with the idea that all life is precious

Rade October 05, 2008 05:13PM

<3 ~~~~~~~~~~ nt

Batman October 05, 2008 05:16PM

Enjoy:(Feel free to express your views on any of these images in the nice form of a reply)

Batman October 05, 2008 04:53PM

answers to deriveh, and JAva

odrirg October 05, 2008 04:48PM

I'd like to see you get a shotgun and hunt down every woman who uses a coathanger.

Scrimbul October 05, 2008 09:10PM

Re: answers to deriveh, and JAva

istirith October 05, 2008 08:58PM

Brings up a good question...

qurdind October 06, 2008 06:21AM

This has already been answered.

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 07:12AM

That'd just make problems like world hunger even worse. More people is not a good thing. ~

Krilcov October 06, 2008 08:42AM

Re: answers to deriveh, and JAva

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 06:22PM

Well...

deriveh October 05, 2008 05:07PM

Are you serious?

Java October 05, 2008 05:02PM

A quote from the article...

deriveh October 05, 2008 05:37PM

You're fucking stupid..

Java October 05, 2008 06:43PM

interesting article.

odrirg October 05, 2008 05:30PM

Re: interesting article.

Darbhi October 07, 2008 08:28PM

Just for shits and giggles. (link inside)

istirith October 05, 2008 08:09PM

PPS: It's not a numbers game.

istirith October 05, 2008 09:19PM

Quit fucking hiding from the question. Answer it. nt

Java October 05, 2008 06:42PM

and WarEagle asks why I flame him. nt

Scrimbul October 05, 2008 09:18PM

Well duh, according to this easy logic

Batman October 05, 2008 05:08PM

answer to batman

odrirg October 05, 2008 04:43PM

About the discussion of human life...

deriveh October 05, 2008 05:52PM

Define "life"

cyril October 05, 2008 05:08PM

That's basically all we are.

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:13PM

Transhumanism

cyril October 06, 2008 06:17AM

My issue was this

Batman October 05, 2008 04:52PM

well, actually. Women do not create eggs at all...

qurdind October 06, 2008 02:14AM

I disagree

enyuu October 05, 2008 06:02PM

How am I destroying an entire life when it hasn't had one?

Batman October 06, 2008 04:16AM

And I disagree with you. :D

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:09PM

That in consideration

enyuu October 05, 2008 07:09PM

I'll take a moment to think about that. "What if I were aborted"

Batman October 06, 2008 04:22AM

Trees are pretty useful

enyuu October 06, 2008 05:37PM

My thoughts on abortion.

Krilcov October 05, 2008 04:34PM

I agree with Rob but sadly he still managed to get through! lesigh~

abernyte October 06, 2008 01:10AM

Slut and slut...

deriveh October 05, 2008 04:48PM

Yes, it's ok for the male to be a slut.

Java October 05, 2008 05:04PM

I agree with this as well

enyuu October 05, 2008 07:38PM

Cosign on the last line.

Batman October 06, 2008 04:29AM

Sure. Find out who the father is too, and have him killed as well. ~

Krilcov October 05, 2008 04:56PM

I love you, Rob. NT

Batman October 05, 2008 04:58PM



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