Actually,

October 06, 2008 06:06PM
A sperm is a sperm and an egg an egg. Alone, neither will amount to anything other than a sperm or an egg. It is together they begin the crazy journey of life.
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About abortion

deriveh October 05, 2008 02:53PM

Keep it safe, legal, and rare (nt)

doge October 08, 2008 03:43PM

Side question: Do you consider the morning after pill an abortion? nt

Java October 06, 2008 07:58PM

Re: Side question: Do you consider the morning after pill an abortion? nt

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 04:35AM

Then you'd also have to be opposed to most forms of birth control

Rade October 08, 2008 04:12PM

wife and i use natural family planning for precisely that reason. nt

Isildur(VIP) October 08, 2008 06:32PM

I'm not saying you're wrong

Rade October 09, 2008 04:48AM

I want to try framing this without using utility ethics, but...

burr October 06, 2008 05:15PM

The problem is you presuppose person

jegec October 06, 2008 06:00PM

Hey Ordrig, I'm still waiting on an answer to the question.

Java October 06, 2008 03:07PM

The entire debate is fairly meaningless anyway.

vortex_magus October 06, 2008 02:29PM

Actually,

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:06PM

Sperm meeting egg happens all the time, it is not surefire that a baby comes from it...

vortex_magus October 06, 2008 06:53PM

Can we just not discuss certain topics?

Lokain October 06, 2008 12:33PM

you're welcome ~

morocco October 06, 2008 06:56PM

I'm pro-life and pro-choice

morocco October 06, 2008 05:44AM

War is especially interesting in this vein

Rade October 06, 2008 02:57PM

Re: War is especially interesting in this vein

morocco October 06, 2008 06:54PM

That is quite possibly the dumbest post in the thread.

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:33AM

Everything has a use, including corporal punishment

morocco October 06, 2008 08:40AM

You are misrepresenting the position here. No thanks. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 09:11AM

I'm not misrepresenting my own position, promise. You're welcome anyway~

morocco October 06, 2008 09:14AM

The position being what I wrote. Your argument was like a straw man argument,

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 09:17AM

Sorry, I can't stop myself. I _think_ it was more like a hypothetical syllogism

morocco October 06, 2008 11:06AM

To continue this a bit more...

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 11:55AM

I agree with most of your sentiments immediately above

morocco October 06, 2008 06:39PM

What I got out of that...

niris October 06, 2008 04:30AM

Yep

jegec October 06, 2008 01:44PM

Pro-choice until the fetus is viable (~6 mos.)

Balrahd(VIP) October 05, 2008 10:05PM

Parasitic.

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:57AM

I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 11:27AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 01:40PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 02:17PM

woo hoo!

odrirg October 07, 2008 04:25AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 03:29PM

Re: I don't know

Yver October 06, 2008 08:53PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 04:30PM

"Force them into one over the other" Snort. And a side argument.

odrirg October 07, 2008 04:43AM

I'm dumber for having read that. nt

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 04:58AM

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that n/t

jegec October 07, 2008 09:42AM

I'm just following logic.

odrirg October 07, 2008 05:54AM

supremely flawed logic. txt

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 06:28AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 05:57PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 06, 2008 07:58PM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 07, 2008 04:56AM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 07, 2008 10:22AM

Re: I don't know

Isildur(VIP) October 08, 2008 01:24PM

Re: I don't know

jegec October 08, 2008 02:59PM

Yah, but,

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 11:39AM

Does a fetus have feelings? Who cares?

Rade October 06, 2008 03:10PM

Yeah I see your point

jegec October 06, 2008 11:46AM

In evolutionary terms procreation happens after the baby is born

morocco October 06, 2008 09:07AM

You made me so happy. Marry me? NT

Batman October 06, 2008 09:29AM

I can't. It's illegal in my state and immoral everywhere in the universe. Sorry :( ~

morocco October 06, 2008 11:07AM

"who would ever want to do such a thing (because admit it, sex is kinda icky). :D" Virgin. NT

Batman October 06, 2008 08:14AM

Married, kid coming in December. : ) But admit it...

The Forsaken(VIP) October 06, 2008 09:04AM

No fucking way. :) Congrats on the kid btw. NT

Sam October 07, 2008 11:47AM

Yes. Consensual vaginal sex in the missionary position with a female of consenting age and legal mind-set for only the reason of procreation and spreading God's word NT

Batman October 06, 2008 09:28AM

"Then I saw her face... now I'm a believer!" nt

Yhorian(VIP) October 06, 2008 10:54AM

Re: Pro-choice until the fetus is viable (~6 mos.)

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:31AM

From the literature I've read I put it at 24 weeks (~6 mos.) - taking into account survival rate and health complications.

Balrahd(VIP) October 06, 2008 02:20PM

The mother is responsible for making that fetus as much as the father is.

Batman October 06, 2008 08:18AM

not so much. txt

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 10:11AM

Cancer, not instant death. Just something you have to live with until you die.

Batman October 06, 2008 10:18AM

Other than the grace of God goodness, not such a bad post.

Batman October 06, 2008 04:31AM

A respectable and admirable stance.

Sam October 05, 2008 10:20PM

I'm never going to be pregnant, so I don't give a fuck.~

Blackbird October 05, 2008 09:40PM

Abortion is fine.

cointreau October 05, 2008 06:49PM

Re: Abortion is fine.

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 08:17PM

3 months is plenty.

cointreau October 05, 2008 10:01PM

I would want a poll on this! Abortion yes or no?

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:25PM

Sounds fun, sure.

Batman October 06, 2008 04:30AM

Mmm protests

niris October 06, 2008 04:32AM

Re: About abortion

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 06:10PM

Re: About abortion

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:19PM

Re: About abortion

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 06:28PM

Okay, another angle!

deriveh October 07, 2008 11:21AM

Re: About abortion

Yver October 06, 2008 03:20AM

Re: About abortion

Isildur(VIP) October 06, 2008 06:28AM

Re: About abortion

Yver October 06, 2008 09:02PM

Dammit!

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:30PM

Here's an analogy I find helpful.

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:06PM

What's your point?

Krilcov October 05, 2008 06:38PM

Seriously, kid. You try way too fucking hard. nt

Java October 05, 2008 08:33PM

At what?

Krilcov October 05, 2008 08:52PM

At living up to this lame persona you've been trying to build.

Java October 05, 2008 09:02PM

That's the thing, I don't have to try.

Krilcov October 05, 2008 09:27PM

Rob

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 07:07AM

Big reply to you, bud.

Batman October 06, 2008 08:33AM

Re: Big reply to you, bud.

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 10:01AM

My pleasure, I assure you.

Batman October 06, 2008 10:23AM

Re: Rob

Krilcov October 06, 2008 08:14AM

Re: Rob

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 09:53AM

You're not missing anything, except maybe my point, which seems to be lost on you.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 10:31AM

Logical reasons

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 11:24AM

This is more focused on the women herself, than the rights of the unborn child.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 12:32PM

Answers

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 10:43AM

I understand where you are coming from, I really do.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 10:56AM

Re: I understand where you are coming from, I really do.

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 11:15AM

Re: I understand where you are coming from, I really do.

Krilcov October 06, 2008 11:37AM

Yeah, from reading this, we REALLY disagree on moral grounds. NT

Batman October 06, 2008 10:25AM

You're only 15. What do you know? ~

Krilcov October 05, 2008 06:16PM

17, and you have your opinion below as well, I see? ~

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:17PM

Damn. Had you mistaken for someone else. ~

Krilcov October 05, 2008 06:31PM

That would be yourself. nt

DurNominator(VIP) October 06, 2008 11:30AM

Nah there was someone else who claimed they were the same age as me in some old age thread. But search likes to hang on me so I haven't bothered digging it up. For some reason I thought it was him who had said that. ~

Krilcov October 06, 2008 12:08PM

Search hangs on you because you post too fucking much

entropissed October 07, 2008 05:09AM

Interesting analogy

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:14PM

Women crush the egg's chance every month.

Batman October 05, 2008 06:10PM

Will the egg naturally develop into a human? No. Needs another ingredient, I think. nt

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:14PM

Will the baby naturally develop into a human?

Batman October 05, 2008 06:20PM

Eggs

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:31PM

Re: Eggs

jalbrin October 08, 2008 07:48AM

Thanks for understanding. NT

Batman October 06, 2008 04:12AM

I disagree with the idea that all life is precious

Rade October 05, 2008 05:13PM

<3 ~~~~~~~~~~ nt

Batman October 05, 2008 05:16PM

Enjoy:(Feel free to express your views on any of these images in the nice form of a reply)

Batman October 05, 2008 04:53PM

answers to deriveh, and JAva

odrirg October 05, 2008 04:48PM

I'd like to see you get a shotgun and hunt down every woman who uses a coathanger.

Scrimbul October 05, 2008 09:10PM

Re: answers to deriveh, and JAva

istirith October 05, 2008 08:58PM

Brings up a good question...

qurdind October 06, 2008 06:21AM

This has already been answered.

Tiberius Odgen October 06, 2008 07:12AM

That'd just make problems like world hunger even worse. More people is not a good thing. ~

Krilcov October 06, 2008 08:42AM

Re: answers to deriveh, and JAva

Isildur(VIP) October 05, 2008 06:22PM

Well...

deriveh October 05, 2008 05:07PM

Are you serious?

Java October 05, 2008 05:02PM

A quote from the article...

deriveh October 05, 2008 05:37PM

You're fucking stupid..

Java October 05, 2008 06:43PM

interesting article.

odrirg October 05, 2008 05:30PM

Re: interesting article.

Darbhi October 07, 2008 08:28PM

Just for shits and giggles. (link inside)

istirith October 05, 2008 08:09PM

PPS: It's not a numbers game.

istirith October 05, 2008 09:19PM

Quit fucking hiding from the question. Answer it. nt

Java October 05, 2008 06:42PM

and WarEagle asks why I flame him. nt

Scrimbul October 05, 2008 09:18PM

Well duh, according to this easy logic

Batman October 05, 2008 05:08PM

answer to batman

odrirg October 05, 2008 04:43PM

About the discussion of human life...

deriveh October 05, 2008 05:52PM

Define "life"

cyril October 05, 2008 05:08PM

That's basically all we are.

Tiberius Odgen October 05, 2008 06:13PM

Transhumanism

cyril October 06, 2008 06:17AM

My issue was this

Batman October 05, 2008 04:52PM

well, actually. Women do not create eggs at all...

qurdind October 06, 2008 02:14AM

I disagree

enyuu October 05, 2008 06:02PM

How am I destroying an entire life when it hasn't had one?

Batman October 06, 2008 04:16AM

And I disagree with you. :D

deriveh October 05, 2008 06:09PM

That in consideration

enyuu October 05, 2008 07:09PM

I'll take a moment to think about that. "What if I were aborted"

Batman October 06, 2008 04:22AM

Trees are pretty useful

enyuu October 06, 2008 05:37PM

My thoughts on abortion.

Krilcov October 05, 2008 04:34PM

I agree with Rob but sadly he still managed to get through! lesigh~

abernyte October 06, 2008 01:10AM

Slut and slut...

deriveh October 05, 2008 04:48PM

Yes, it's ok for the male to be a slut.

Java October 05, 2008 05:04PM

I agree with this as well

enyuu October 05, 2008 07:38PM

Cosign on the last line.

Batman October 06, 2008 04:29AM

Sure. Find out who the father is too, and have him killed as well. ~

Krilcov October 05, 2008 04:56PM

I love you, Rob. NT

Batman October 05, 2008 04:58PM



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