That's an interesting way to look at it (spoilers again)

August 06, 2009 11:18PM
I really hadn't considerd that many of the characters might not have an overarching purpose. I was only thinking that I couldn't get behind any of the characters. Maybe I've been looking at the whole series sort of one dimensionally. I'll try reading the next book with that in mind and maybe I'll have a different opinion.

That said, I think maybe Martin tried to add in good sides to a few characters a bit too late. By book 2 you couldn't make Tyrion or Jaime into good characters. Once Jaime threw Bran off the balcony I don't care how many Brienne's he saved, he's still a bastard. And Tyrion, he's killed, tortured, and betrayed his way through the entire series. He's an interesting character, but not one I could see anyone getting behind. Would you really be interested in seeing him King? Or anything really?

I don't know there must be some reason I keep reading his books but the lack of a decent character to root for definitely pushes this series into my second tier of fantasy novels. Like I said, I can get behind an evil hero but it has to be more like Glen Cook's Black Company. Sure they're evil mercenaries but at least they're loyal to each other. I don't think the same can be said of any of Martin's characters.
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Sword of Truth

silvian August 05, 2009 09:44PM

Anyone read any of the Renshai series?

KennyPowers August 06, 2009 04:47PM

Really enjoyed those. N/t

Seilclavin August 07, 2009 12:16PM

I liked Rache much better. Garn was hawt too. n/t

vortex_magus August 07, 2009 06:42AM

Yes. Though not really human, so.....

alansmithee August 06, 2009 06:29PM

Mmm, Freya. n/t

jalim August 06, 2009 05:40PM

Its a moral clusterfuck to be honest.

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 04:19AM

Mistborn and Codex Alera are written by who? nt

DurNominator(VIP) August 09, 2009 08:06AM

Re: Mistborn and Codex Alera are written by who? nt

Cerunnir(VIP) August 09, 2009 12:24PM

No freaking kidding.

vortexmagus August 06, 2009 08:18AM

Re: No freaking kidding.

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 12:47PM

Re: No freaking kidding.

Zoder August 07, 2009 02:37AM

Yeah, I loved when Rob Stark made it in a cave and became

Batman August 07, 2009 03:00AM

Really enjoyed song of ice and fire too. It's just great. nt

Yhorian(VIP) August 06, 2009 04:53AM

I don't really like R.R. Martin that much.

vortexmagus August 06, 2009 12:59PM

That's what makes it good

daurwyn(VIP) August 16, 2009 01:41PM

Oh please

Lokain August 06, 2009 04:02PM

I agree

jegec August 06, 2009 02:09PM

There is (some spoilers)

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 03:48PM

Difference here between us

vortexmagus August 07, 2009 04:49AM

Re: Difference here between us

Cerunnir(VIP) August 07, 2009 07:56AM

Also (some spoilers)

Lokain August 06, 2009 04:04PM

I disagree (also spoilers)

jegec August 06, 2009 04:04PM

Do you not think

daurwyn(VIP) August 16, 2009 01:45PM

That's part of what draws me in.

Balrahd(VIP) August 06, 2009 10:42PM

Lies!!.

Zoder August 07, 2009 02:40AM

That was the closest the books got to satiating my "bloodlust"

Balrahd(VIP) August 07, 2009 08:08AM

Further spoilers.

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 07:51PM

That's an interesting way to look at it (spoilers again)

jegec August 06, 2009 11:18PM

I just like how all of the characters aren't completely moral or morally bankrupt

Lokain August 07, 2009 01:56PM

OMG TAKE IT BACK OR YOU'RE GETTING BOUNCED FROM THE LEAGUE!

Lokain August 06, 2009 04:05PM

Hah, you just know I'm due to win it all this year nt

jegec August 06, 2009 11:26PM

Burn baby Burn

Seilclavin August 06, 2009 06:52AM

Its arguably the best fantasy ever written. It makes Lord of the rings look like a fuzzy bunny book. nt

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 05:00AM



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