Difference here between us

August 07, 2009 04:49AM
After spending thousands of pages developing Rob Stark and building his power base, Martin kills him off suddenly without letting him accomplish anything.

This gave you some sort of fulfillment, and felt to me like some kind con job. If the character is nothing but a comparatively minor death in the series, why spend so much time developing him? Couldn't he just have talked a little bit about Rob's super awesome rebellion and then got it cut down later without wasting our time with it?

My biggest problem is that he doesn't have Jordan's gift for focusing on a single, overarching goal - to you its Martin telling a story about a bunch of realistic people who live dangerous lives and who all die terrible deaths in a time of war. To me, its like one of those shitty soaps on daytime television, with no real point after all the massive drama and huge character casts.

Throughout Jordan's books, you can see each of the characters developing their powerbases, finding allies and enemies, making a difference and moving towards the final epic confrontation of good and evil in Tarmon Gai'don.

To contrast it with Martin's books, which have at least 20 different major storylines, many of which get cut off abruptly with no real point and no real sense of fulfillment or climax or resolution, and then throughout the book there's the threat from the evil power-hungry house Lannister, the threat from various other corrupt, stupid, spoiled noble factions, the threat from the evil primitive savage ice-people army from past the northern wall, the threat from the strangers or whatever the fuck is pushing the ice-people army over the wall, the dragonlady's return with some kind of mongol horde variant and devil-mages, and more. I'm left wondering what the point of it all is. If he's trying to say that particular nation-state is fucked up beyond all recognition, he succeeded. Aside from that, I don't find anything really important that stays with me at all.
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Sword of Truth

silvian August 05, 2009 09:44PM

Anyone read any of the Renshai series?

KennyPowers August 06, 2009 04:47PM

Really enjoyed those. N/t

Seilclavin August 07, 2009 12:16PM

I liked Rache much better. Garn was hawt too. n/t

vortex_magus August 07, 2009 06:42AM

Yes. Though not really human, so.....

alansmithee August 06, 2009 06:29PM

Mmm, Freya. n/t

jalim August 06, 2009 05:40PM

Its a moral clusterfuck to be honest.

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 04:19AM

Mistborn and Codex Alera are written by who? nt

DurNominator(VIP) August 09, 2009 08:06AM

Re: Mistborn and Codex Alera are written by who? nt

Cerunnir(VIP) August 09, 2009 12:24PM

No freaking kidding.

vortexmagus August 06, 2009 08:18AM

Re: No freaking kidding.

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 12:47PM

Re: No freaking kidding.

Zoder August 07, 2009 02:37AM

Yeah, I loved when Rob Stark made it in a cave and became

Batman August 07, 2009 03:00AM

Really enjoyed song of ice and fire too. It's just great. nt

Yhorian(VIP) August 06, 2009 04:53AM

I don't really like R.R. Martin that much.

vortexmagus August 06, 2009 12:59PM

That's what makes it good

daurwyn(VIP) August 16, 2009 01:41PM

Oh please

Lokain August 06, 2009 04:02PM

I agree

jegec August 06, 2009 02:09PM

There is (some spoilers)

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 03:48PM

Difference here between us

vortexmagus August 07, 2009 04:49AM

Re: Difference here between us

Cerunnir(VIP) August 07, 2009 07:56AM

Also (some spoilers)

Lokain August 06, 2009 04:04PM

I disagree (also spoilers)

jegec August 06, 2009 04:04PM

Do you not think

daurwyn(VIP) August 16, 2009 01:45PM

That's part of what draws me in.

Balrahd(VIP) August 06, 2009 10:42PM

Lies!!.

Zoder August 07, 2009 02:40AM

That was the closest the books got to satiating my "bloodlust"

Balrahd(VIP) August 07, 2009 08:08AM

Further spoilers.

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 07:51PM

That's an interesting way to look at it (spoilers again)

jegec August 06, 2009 11:18PM

I just like how all of the characters aren't completely moral or morally bankrupt

Lokain August 07, 2009 01:56PM

OMG TAKE IT BACK OR YOU'RE GETTING BOUNCED FROM THE LEAGUE!

Lokain August 06, 2009 04:05PM

Hah, you just know I'm due to win it all this year nt

jegec August 06, 2009 11:26PM

Burn baby Burn

Seilclavin August 06, 2009 06:52AM

Its arguably the best fantasy ever written. It makes Lord of the rings look like a fuzzy bunny book. nt

Cerunnir(VIP) August 06, 2009 05:00AM



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