I've always believed in free will.

April 14, 2011 02:59PM
I've never understood why we makes things so simple so complicated.

Societies/religions may attempt to veer you in a certain direction, but that has nothing to do with free will. You are free to do anything, but there will probably be a consequence(good or bad who cares).

I drive speed limit. I'm under the impression that people far smarter than me decided what the safest speed is(for whatever reasons no need to elaborate). I think that increases my chances to live. But nothing stops me from driving 90 throughout my little city and crash and burning(possible consequence).

I'm a Hindu. Most important facet I've taken from my religion is duties. We all have duties(as a son, as a husband, as a father, uncle, friend, boss, etc.). When we die, depending on how we fulfilled those duties(there are other elements that factor into this), we will either have a better life our next incarnation or a worser life. I believe that to be true, and so then I have to reason we have the free will to either perform those duties or not perform those duties.

Edited to add, when we imprison people, we are punishing them by taking away their free will. Whether or not you agree with imprisoning the person for the offense, the idea is to prevent them from exercising free will.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2011 03:04PM by WarEagle.
Subject Author Posted

So the religious thread below got me wondering. What's your opinion on the existance of free will?

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 14, 2011 06:54AM

My beliefs vary day by day. Today I don't believe in the soul, so I don't believe free will can exist.

Death_Claw April 21, 2011 02:19PM

That's annoyingly inconsistent and your severe indecisiveness is definitely not an enviable trait. n/t

Stevers April 21, 2011 02:33PM

Isn't it? I don't know, I haven't found Jesus yet I guess. n/t

Death_Claw April 21, 2011 03:21PM

I think what it boils down to is I waffle between what I know and what I'd like to believe.

Death_Claw April 21, 2011 03:24PM

Maybe you will tomorrow. n/t

Stevers April 21, 2011 03:23PM

Philosophy and Physics

starbright April 17, 2011 04:18AM

I love the New Scientist.

istirith April 17, 2011 04:26AM

Re: So the religious thread below got me wondering. What's your opinion on the existance of free will?

demos April 15, 2011 08:34PM

Re: So the religious thread below got me wondering. What's your opinion on the existance of free will?

Isildur(VIP) April 15, 2011 02:32PM

It feels like I have free will, therefore I act like I have free will, therefore I have free will

morocco April 14, 2011 03:59PM

I've always believed in free will.

WarEagle April 14, 2011 02:59PM

100% free will is an illusion

Nightchild April 14, 2011 11:45AM

I don't think any of those examples can be used to argue the im/possibility of free will.

Starscream April 14, 2011 11:52AM

Re: I don't think any of those examples can be used to argue the im/possibility of free will.

Nightchild April 14, 2011 11:58AM

re: up to a point

Starscream April 14, 2011 12:01PM

Yes I believe in free will

reject-o April 14, 2011 10:34AM

I don't believe there is free will.

Starscream April 14, 2011 09:45AM

Re: I don't believe there is free will.

PaulO April 16, 2011 06:58AM

How would that not free you from responsibility?

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 14, 2011 09:50AM

I don't likely think about fault in that sense.

Death_Claw April 21, 2011 02:22PM

"Can right and wrong exist when there is no choice?"

Matrik April 14, 2011 10:08AM

You silly atheists and your subjective morality. Jesus says right in the good book that killin is wrong! (n/t)

Artificial April 14, 2011 10:16AM

Those are all subjective.

Starscream April 14, 2011 09:56AM

Well of course they're subjective...but...

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 14, 2011 06:29PM

If you want to kill me

Artificial April 14, 2011 06:32PM

My question is a bit more fundamental on this one

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 14, 2011 06:41PM

(Mat 7:1) Judge not lest ye be judged.

Artificial April 14, 2011 06:49PM

So do you think morality would exist without a choice?

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 14, 2011 06:51PM

Morality is what we collectively decide. It isnt objective.

Artificial April 14, 2011 06:57PM

I think in the second case I would FEEL like I did something wrong

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 15, 2011 10:32AM

objectively you did nothing wrong, subjectively you believe you did.... (n/t)

Artificial April 15, 2011 10:54AM

So would you say morality rests entirely in the realm of the subjective? (n/t)

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 17, 2011 11:15AM

Not possible

Rade April 14, 2011 09:43AM

Re: Not possible

Stevers April 14, 2011 09:46AM

Re: Not possible

Rade April 14, 2011 10:40AM

Re: Not possible

Stevers April 14, 2011 10:54AM

Re: Not possible

Rade April 14, 2011 11:07AM

Thanks for repeating yourself

Stevers April 14, 2011 11:09AM

What's not to understand?

Rade April 14, 2011 11:13AM

Where does diversity in chemical reactions come into play with this model?

Stevers April 14, 2011 12:04PM

Nature vs. nurture is a different philosophical discussion

Rade April 14, 2011 05:10PM

Yeah, but since Stevers made his observation, it totally changed how you're acting. n/t. (n/t)

Jib April 14, 2011 11:16AM

huh? nt

Rade April 14, 2011 11:22AM

A very cheesy quantum physics joke about observation affecting reality. (n/t)

Jib April 14, 2011 11:29AM

I see where this thread is currently, but I don't know where it's headed nt

Rade April 14, 2011 11:33AM

Downhill.

Starscream April 14, 2011 12:12PM

Agreed. n/t

Stevers April 14, 2011 12:13PM

Through careful analysis of each individual poster on the forums, I would be able to tell you right where this is heading. n/t

Stevers April 14, 2011 12:10PM

I thought it was funny. :) (n/t)

Starscream April 14, 2011 11:31AM

As a psychology guy...

Artificial April 14, 2011 09:28AM

I have no idea why...but this stood out to me in this post:

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 14, 2011 06:49PM

Did what I could

Artificial April 15, 2011 04:43PM

The whole mind killing:

Batman April 14, 2011 09:37AM

Here is my take. Summary at the bottom if its "TLDR"

Matrik April 14, 2011 09:14AM

How would having "REAL" clairvoyance affect free will in this case?

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid April 14, 2011 06:57PM

Because,

Matrik April 14, 2011 07:29PM

Its not a question of free will

enyuu April 14, 2011 08:02AM

Yes it is. It was a question of free will.

Stevers April 14, 2011 08:04AM

I was more or less saying

enyuu April 14, 2011 08:10AM

history is a meaningless concept to god

valkenar April 14, 2011 08:46AM

Uh.....

vortexmagus April 14, 2011 01:24PM

Re: history is a meaningless concept to god

Stevers April 14, 2011 08:53AM

Your metaphor doesn't make sense :-/ NT

Batman April 14, 2011 08:53AM

I understand now.

Stevers April 14, 2011 08:11AM

This is a tricky quesiton for me

Stevers April 14, 2011 07:52AM

Re: This is a tricky quesiton for me

enyuu April 14, 2011 08:17AM

Re: This is a tricky quesiton for me

Stevers April 14, 2011 08:28AM

No it doesn't make sense

valkenar April 14, 2011 08:52AM

I think you misunderstood, or I wasn't clear enough

Stevers April 14, 2011 08:54AM

While I can't necessarily say this is my view.

Batman April 14, 2011 08:28AM

What is your view?

Stevers April 14, 2011 08:30AM

You are a chemical robot

valkenar April 14, 2011 08:37AM

It isn't hard to accept, I'm fine with it.

Stevers April 14, 2011 08:51AM

Beep beep. Boop boop. NT

Batman April 14, 2011 08:44AM

Ah, this is what stevers is talking about~

enyuu April 14, 2011 08:38AM



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