I was told this some twenty-five to thirty years ago

October 09, 2007 06:28AM
> To be honest, I'm pretty sure this is another sign that the view of the historical US is more influensed by current political powers than past. <br>> <br> <br>I learned this probably in 6th or 7th grade (you have to remember I'm old), So I'm not sure what you consider current vs. past. If you mean the Carter administration as current political powers you'd be in the right ball park. <br> <br>And I'd say that my statement only really holds true for the New England area, which while never under any type of secular government, was highly influenced by religious leaders for example the founding of Yale and Harvard, the Salem witch trials, etc.
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American heritage and why Europeans don't understand

Rade 978 October 08, 2007 05:03PM

Query: Do you support public funding of elections? (nt)

ShroomKing 614 October 08, 2007 07:05PM

Irrelevant to his topic. n/t

Pro 535 October 08, 2007 07:51PM

I dont have a problem with personally funding candidates

hopelessdwarf 613 October 08, 2007 09:54PM

I don't have a strong opinion either way nt

Rade 658 October 09, 2007 01:38PM

Hear here! Well said and dead on! n/t

Pro 657 October 08, 2007 07:51PM

That's about right. nt

Scrimbul 689 October 08, 2007 08:10PM

American heritage and why americans don't understand.

Cenatar 672 October 08, 2007 10:28PM

Early US (puritannical) religion

ExPaladin 685 October 09, 2007 01:03AM

How widespread was this?

Cenatar 707 October 09, 2007 02:17AM

See my post above. We as Americans give our money/resources away

Pro 692 October 09, 2007 05:54AM

Hmmm

Cenatar 1365 October 09, 2007 07:44AM

Where as Americans do volunteer work.

Pro 630 October 09, 2007 12:26PM

Re: Where as Americans do volunteer work.

Cenatar 654 October 09, 2007 12:34PM

Okay. You're drunk on sardine juice. This concludes our debate. n/t

Pro 742 October 09, 2007 03:17PM

I was told this some twenty-five to thirty years ago

ExPaladin 609 October 09, 2007 06:28AM

Yeah

Cenatar 595 October 09, 2007 07:40AM

The concept was written about over 100 years ago

ExPaladin 750 October 09, 2007 08:50AM

While for the most part I agree

hopelessdwarf 811 October 09, 2007 08:01AM

Are you doing this on purpose? It's Uppercase A. American. n/t

Pro 633 October 09, 2007 05:53AM

In Finnish and Swedish grammar lowercase is used for nationalities and languages

DurNominator 693 October 09, 2007 06:04AM

Yeah, sorry Pro. Old

Cenatar 726 October 09, 2007 07:33AM

habits die hard (nt in this and above)

Cenatar 575 October 09, 2007 07:34AM

Thats funny you learn something new everyday! n/t

hopelessdwarf 613 October 09, 2007 07:57AM

Who knew?! n/t

Pro 657 October 09, 2007 12:22PM

I've always assumed it was an underhanded insult. n/t

Pro 582 October 09, 2007 12:23PM

There are some who describe you as slightly paranoid. n/t

Death_Claw 659 October 10, 2007 06:34AM

I know, they've been watching me for years. n/t

Pro 622 October 10, 2007 06:59AM

Ugh! UGH! UGH!

Odrirg 608 October 09, 2007 07:17AM

Democracy

DurNominator 690 October 08, 2007 11:10PM

Man, you are so brain washed.

Pro 568 October 09, 2007 05:52AM

Re: Man, you are so brain washed.

DurNominator 719 October 09, 2007 07:04AM

I disagree.

Death_Claw 658 October 09, 2007 07:23AM

I agree too. I have been worried sick about the success of my agents.

Pro 643 October 09, 2007 11:34AM

Selfish.

[TheForsaken-] 1275 October 09, 2007 07:23AM

Well said. n/t

Death_Claw 754 October 09, 2007 07:24AM

It is not two teams.

Cenatar 697 October 09, 2007 07:47AM

Sick kids.

[TheForsaken-] 675 October 09, 2007 08:05AM

Conversely...

Rade 587 October 09, 2007 01:16PM

Ha! Good point. nt

[TheForsaken-] 737 October 10, 2007 08:10AM

Re: It is not two teams.

Pro 670 October 09, 2007 11:32AM

Re: It is not two teams.

Cenatar 609 October 09, 2007 12:35PM

What is mean about it?

Pro 574 October 09, 2007 03:16PM

Maybe it's the positive attitude

DurNominator 769 October 09, 2007 11:33PM

Yep.

Pro 780 October 10, 2007 07:57AM

It does not work as placebo(nt)

Cenatar 577 October 10, 2007 01:19AM

Of course it does. It's spiritual sugar pills. n/t

Pro 561 October 10, 2007 06:57AM

Scientific studies does not support you(nt)

Cenatar 536 October 10, 2007 07:06AM

Actually they do.

Pro 584 October 10, 2007 07:55AM

The world you see relies on opportunities that often don't exist.

Yhorian 725 October 09, 2007 07:50AM

Agreed.

[TheForsaken-] 753 October 09, 2007 08:16AM

Exactly n/t

Lokain 649 October 09, 2007 11:04AM

Socialism removes opportunity. Period.

Pro 758 October 09, 2007 11:31AM

Since when?

Graham 730 October 09, 2007 11:36AM

When it levels the value of your efforts.

Pro 675 October 09, 2007 12:01PM

What?

Cenatar 721 October 09, 2007 12:31PM

Not like the current system in the USA.

Pro 670 October 09, 2007 01:06PM

Not at all.

Cenatar 684 October 09, 2007 01:26PM

It's the slippery slope.

Pro 686 October 09, 2007 03:15PM

It stops to a system where people think that it works nicely.

DurNominator 670 October 09, 2007 10:40PM

It never stops. It never has. n/t

Pro 784 October 10, 2007 04:52AM

You seriously need to read up on communism and the history of it(nt)

Cenatar 646 October 10, 2007 07:04AM

I have. And I've done it from the outside looking in.

Pro 778 October 10, 2007 07:54AM

What? You think Sweden has been a communist country or what?(nt)

Cenatar 552 October 10, 2007 07:58AM

Pro is funny n/t

Graham 774 October 10, 2007 09:15AM

Socialism is not. n/t

Pro 696 October 10, 2007 09:46AM

Socialism / Communism, you're never quite sure which one you hate are you? ~

Graham 714 October 10, 2007 11:37AM

They are two shades of the same color. --> Servitude. n/t

Pro 650 October 10, 2007 05:16PM

How are they servitude?

DurNominator 701 October 10, 2007 09:34PM

Just before the patriot act? (nt)

Cenatar 669 October 10, 2007 12:13AM

I think you're considering some sort of communism.

Graham 609 October 09, 2007 12:51PM

Other way to put it

DurNominator 694 October 09, 2007 10:24PM

I THINK I can elaborate on Pro's point

hopelessdwarf 668 October 10, 2007 12:34PM

Nailed it. n/t

Pro 756 October 10, 2007 10:51PM

But when you look at the countries you realise that it's bullshit, i get you ~

Graham 732 October 11, 2007 01:36PM

A-FUCKING-MEN.

Blackbird 616 October 09, 2007 04:14PM

I disagree.

Death_Claw 544 October 10, 2007 04:59AM

Re: I disagree.

DurNominator 681 October 11, 2007 06:01AM

Sounds pretty easy to me

Rade 718 October 11, 2007 08:14AM

Maybe, but New York is his home terrain. nt

DurNominator 796 October 11, 2007 08:40AM

Its not that terribly difficult. Socialism has made you weak. n/t

Death_Claw 695 October 16, 2007 10:42AM

Easy.

Death_Claw 656 October 16, 2007 10:49AM

Because many of them are so ridiculously rich, they can afford to. nt

Yhorian 649 October 09, 2007 07:53AM

There is no such thing as rediculously rich. n/t

Pro 603 October 09, 2007 11:28AM

Are you doing this on purpose?! It's I not E. Ridiculous! :P n/t

Lokain 565 October 09, 2007 01:08PM

Touche! n/t

Pro 523 October 09, 2007 03:14PM

Also, note that these voluntary aid programs are also a form of socialism

DurNominator 595 October 09, 2007 10:26PM

No they aren't. Stop stretching. Your vagina will tear. n/t

Pro 547 October 10, 2007 06:57AM

Ok, we can agree that it's communistic instead. :P

DurNominator 544 October 10, 2007 09:11AM

Communal is not Communist.

Pro 1268 October 10, 2007 03:44PM

A large difference between the United States and Europe.

Death_Claw 605 October 09, 2007 07:19AM

Even last week those crazy Europeans were complaining about the dollar.

[TheForsaken-] 624 October 09, 2007 07:31AM

Democracy vs Representative Democracy

Rade 564 October 09, 2007 01:48PM

This is even more appalling. Please take social studies classes again. nt

Nivek 567 October 09, 2007 05:29PM

Regarding Americans, American businesses, and charity

Rade 575 October 09, 2007 01:05PM

Democracy is a way of making decisions; Narcissism is about ME. ~

Chalupah 675 October 09, 2007 03:14PM

The American Dream is about personal achievement nt

Rade 721 October 09, 2007 03:33PM

It is?(nt)

Cenatar 717 October 10, 2007 12:17AM

Yep. 100% true n/t

Pro 653 October 10, 2007 04:48AM

Ok, it has varied a lot over time so I was just asking.(nt)

Cenatar 614 October 10, 2007 07:05AM

No, it really hasn't.

Pro 708 October 10, 2007 07:53AM

I'm curious what you think other versions of the American Dream have been?

ExPaladin 674 October 11, 2007 04:52AM

Well

Cenatar 812 October 11, 2007 09:38PM

I'd argue home-ownership was just a different way of defining success

ExPaladin 689 October 15, 2007 05:18AM

Yes.

Cenatar 619 October 15, 2007 08:05AM

Its not necessary.

Death_Claw 770 October 16, 2007 10:56AM

The American Dream -- defined

Rade 635 October 11, 2007 04:41AM

That's not the same as some have spouted on this forum.

DurNominator 717 October 11, 2007 06:17AM

Additionally

DurNominator 598 October 11, 2007 06:34AM

Why catch those that fall? Seems unnecessary. n/t

Death_Claw 700 October 16, 2007 10:39AM

Socialism is antithesis to Democracy nt

Rade 688 October 11, 2007 08:08AM

Depends on what definitions are used.

DurNominator 598 October 11, 2007 08:40AM

Also.. Freedom is about individual choice nt

Rade 811 October 09, 2007 03:41PM

Rade, that second paragraph is appalling. nt

Nivek 513 October 09, 2007 05:24PM

Also, to the non US citizens reading this forum.

Nivek 632 October 09, 2007 05:28PM

U.S. Citizens don't say cheers. Go home you Limey. n/t

Pro 695 October 09, 2007 07:24PM

And don't forget to get some fish and chips on your way back! n/t

Vladamir 542 October 09, 2007 08:53PM

He may not speak for you, but I don't think he missed the mark by much

ExPaladin 659 October 10, 2007 02:35AM

It wasn't intended to represent everyone nt

Rade 519 October 11, 2007 04:36AM

Why so?

Scrimbul 716 October 09, 2007 06:44PM

The first half is opinion. The second is inaccurate. nt

Nivek 545 October 10, 2007 04:23PM

Only if you are an Un-American Fuck. n/t

Pro 499 October 10, 2007 05:15PM

No true scotsman?(nt)

Cenatar 599 October 10, 2007 09:41PM

Good thing I am neither American, nor a Fuck. nt

Nivek 1352 October 11, 2007 12:29PM

Ok, maybe I am a fuck. I am, however, not UN-American. nt

Nivek 703 October 11, 2007 12:30PM

Well, if you're going to be vague, I call faggot.

Scrimbul 626 October 10, 2007 07:31PM

Call me what you wish. That, too, is opinion. Not fact.

Nivek 631 October 11, 2007 12:26PM

Part of teaching for a living...

Scrimbul 686 October 11, 2007 03:47PM

Re: Part of teaching for a living...

Nivek 618 October 11, 2007 03:57PM

Re: Call me what you wish. That, too, is opinion. Not fact.

Isildur 768 October 15, 2007 05:31AM

In all honesty, the way this threads going. I actually like some of you now.

Pro 520 October 10, 2007 03:00PM

&quot;Why america is so geat&quot; essays stopped being the rage in 4th grade n/t

Kadsuane 749 October 10, 2007 04:55PM

Aced my doctorate dissertation with one of those. n/t

Death_Claw 591 October 11, 2007 04:16AM

The University of Phoenix has a doctoral program?n/t

jegec 787 October 11, 2007 02:25PM

Heheheh. n/t

Death_Claw 653 October 15, 2007 06:44AM

Your response shows your own bias

Rade 620 October 11, 2007 05:19AM



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