CF and Staying Power

February 10, 2011 06:59AM
Hey Guys

I was just reading through some of the forums. I like to check back every few weeks/months just to see that CF is still kicking. There's a post a few pages back about CF dying and I wanted to ask a few questions. I started playing CF in '92 (or was it '94? it wasn't too long after CF came online) and I've seen this same post several times over the years. I admit that I get a knot in my stomach at the thought of CF going offline. I haven't played for almost 3 years now but it's still comforting to pull up Dio's and browse the logs and main forums. I played pretty solid for 7 or 8 years and then in spurts after that until work and school had to take precedence. I miss it. If I had the time I would still be playing. A few of you mentioned that a lot of us "grew up" and the younger generation is more attracted to WOW and the like. I agree with this. I've played WOW and really enjoy it but nothing beats the imagination. That's always been the draw for me. Those of us who started playing here before the WOW's HAD to have good imaginations because the graphics and sounds of today simply weren't around. Don't get me wrong, the graphics and sounds are great but text based games appeal to a very specific genre. I miss the days of 150+ players. The players *make* the game. Sure you can explore and spam when there's no one else on but the interaction is really where the excitement flourishes.

If you go to mudconnect or similar sites there are listings for over 1100 muds. The top 20 boast claims of hundreds of players (450+ at peak times even). So my question is what does that particular mud have that draws such a large player base? My guess would be (and I'm speculating here) that the level of RP and the caliber of the characters on that mud would be considered ridiculous by most of us. We have come to expect a certain level of game play with CF mainly because it's been enforced and I think that's a good thing... to a point. Which would you rather have: 300 players online most of which are characters named Luvstospooge and act like 13 year olds or 40 players online that are quality characters with solid RP and game skills? Personally, I'd like something in the middle. 100 players is great especially if most of them are quality characters. You're always going to have newbs which is also a good thing because without newbs attrition would eventually kill the player base. But newbs either learn to RP and contribute positively to the game or realize this environment is not a good fit for their immaturity and bail out.

This is starting to ramble so I'll try to get to my point. If there are 1100+ muds out there some of which have hundreds of players then muds (in general) have a solid foundation. I imagine some research into the more popular muds would help shed some light on why CF's numbers have dwindled. What do those other muds have that we don't? What can we change to attract as many players as the other muds. I refuse to believe that CF couldn't be just as popular as the bigger muds given the right elements. We just have to figure out what those elements are. Vladamir and I have been toying around with the idea of building our own mud for several years with that exact mentality in mind. Check out all the popular muds, see what the draw is and build a CF with all those positive draws incorporated. I think the new changes to CF are great. A mud has to change and develop else it becomes stagnant and has no draw. God, how I miss purple potions, lode stones, Masters, Elemental Mountain (was it mountain or cavern? it had the harps made of elements: lightning harp, etc), the mob factory (not really), red dragon orb, Coprophagus(sp?), I could go on and on. Yes things were simpler then but new challenges require more. More choices, more options, more areas, more quests. Growth doesn't come without complications. CF has to grow and we have to grow with it. Nature of the beast.

Anyway, I miss you guys. Hope everyone is doing well.

Ekirhal
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Subject Author Posted

CF and Staying Power

ekirhal February 10, 2011 06:59AM

Heh, let me whine a bit too

Murphy February 13, 2011 05:25PM

I never played CF for revenge.

Death_Claw February 15, 2011 11:12AM

Re: Heh, let me whine a bit too

briartangle February 13, 2011 05:34PM

That's more people than you think

Murphy February 13, 2011 05:59PM

Re: That's more people than you think

briartangle February 13, 2011 06:43PM

Don't worry...

The Faithful of Nazmorghul February 12, 2011 01:07PM

Yay. For once you post and Vlad says nothing sexually abraisive towards you! (n/t)

BattleCharmed February 12, 2011 11:55AM

Barriers to entry..

thinhallen February 11, 2011 05:15PM

Jerks full saccing newbs don't help either

daurwyn(VIP) February 12, 2011 01:47AM

That's why I only full sac vets.

Starscream February 12, 2011 02:21AM

That's why I never full loot, unless all of his stuff happens to be better than mine

Nightchild February 12, 2011 03:59AM

Re: CF and Staying Power

chuntog February 11, 2011 02:02PM

You were one of the very best. We all miss you :( NT

Sam February 11, 2011 02:14PM

randomly checked Dio's and saw this thread and agree with everything Ekirhal said. I remember when Ekirhal would format my logs :) . Sam do you still play? -nt

icthaen February 11, 2011 04:09PM

My pleasure :)~

ekirhal February 11, 2011 04:57PM

CF's problem is that you're all a bunch of whiney old farts. (n/t)

Matrik February 11, 2011 04:29AM

Including yourself. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) February 11, 2011 10:36AM

Cosign (n/t)

Matrik February 11, 2011 10:41AM

CF will always have a niche

Srial February 11, 2011 02:31AM

What did you like better about the other muds you tried?~

ekirhal February 11, 2011 06:58AM

You're kind of a douche bag.

briartangle February 11, 2011 05:25AM

Your opinion matters!

Srial February 11, 2011 05:41AM

I'll tell you what's wrong with CF.

Murphy February 10, 2011 11:53PM

Atonement RPI - Created last month, had a high of 70 pc's within 2 days of inception in Beta.

Jerrokrar February 10, 2011 08:01PM

Is Jerrokrar still active?

Stevers February 11, 2011 07:39AM

From what I have seen in game, he RPs just as much here as in game. (n/t)

Artificial February 11, 2011 03:40PM

Fourthed (n/t)

Matrik February 11, 2011 02:32PM

Thirded (n/t)

wrathpuppet February 11, 2011 02:27PM

Seconded. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) February 11, 2011 10:38AM

Did you just say newayz without trying to be smug or sarcastic?

Sam February 10, 2011 08:02PM

Most muds are more IRC channel than "kill cityguard"~

Blackbird February 10, 2011 09:28AM

TLDR, but cool to see you're still alive. n/t

Death_Claw February 10, 2011 08:14AM

TLDR? Always good to see you, Love.~

ekirhal February 10, 2011 08:40AM

it means "Too long; didn't read". i hate text abbreviations.~

joe February 10, 2011 09:19AM

CF is on its way out

trewyn February 10, 2011 07:29AM

I for one have played my last character.

trewyn February 10, 2011 06:27PM

So are you going to tell us the name?

daurwyn(VIP) February 11, 2011 02:00PM

I've had a dumb name before, even further into hours than that - They changed it slightly. I lost none of my IC connections. NT

Batman February 11, 2011 04:46AM

Me too

Stevers February 11, 2011 02:13PM

Dude thats really weird of you to say considering this is a CF forum. n/t

jalim February 11, 2011 01:39AM

That's what I was thinking. (n/t)

Jib February 11, 2011 04:18PM

What was your character's name? I usually send up a pray when I see one that's suspect. nt

Isildur(VIP) February 10, 2011 06:54PM

annnnd this is why you're the problem...

granaak February 10, 2011 11:36PM

You, of all people, should never accuse anyone else of shitbaggery. EVER. nt (n/t)

vladamir February 12, 2011 10:05AM

Naming guidelines are in the rules. If you don't want to follow them, I'm not concerned about losing you as a player. nt

Isildur(VIP) February 11, 2011 08:37AM

wah, wah..but it's in the rules! You, dur and daur remind me of C-3PO: http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/2534.jpg

granaak February 11, 2011 03:45PM

Still waiting for you to post that evidence of my character whining

daurwyn(VIP) February 14, 2011 02:35PM

I can't wait for the day it's just you and Jalim playing

HairyOrangutan February 11, 2011 08:42AM

It'll fold before then. txt

Isildur(VIP) February 11, 2011 01:10PM

You'll have a hard time getting rid of me.

Stevers February 11, 2011 09:00AM

Fourth, because I will still be here.

Matrik February 11, 2011 09:09AM

Can I come? Now that I'm back I feel like I'm never going to leave again. TO HELL WITH WOW!! NT

nightmareblade February 11, 2011 05:01PM

Damn right you can come! Me + you = perma. NT

Batman February 12, 2011 04:03AM

cosign. (n/t)

Artificial February 11, 2011 08:42AM

Just get your name changed?

Oldril February 11, 2011 05:25AM

It is. The problem arises with his previous contacts who knew the same character with another name. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) February 11, 2011 10:41AM

What's that problem?

Murphy February 12, 2011 06:08AM

Why do you think he's a VIP?

HairyOrangutan February 11, 2011 03:59AM

Name Police

wrathpuppet February 10, 2011 06:37PM

Re: CF is on its way out

Isildur(VIP) February 10, 2011 09:48AM

people have been saying that for years~

joe February 10, 2011 09:17AM

And the playerbase has been declining. nt (n/t)

vladamir February 10, 2011 09:20AM

It went up during my last absence nt

daurwyn(VIP) February 10, 2011 09:56AM

What does that tell us? Hrmmm... nt

qurdind February 10, 2011 11:09AM

Touche nt

daurwyn(VIP) February 10, 2011 11:16AM

DOOM DOOM DOOM! n/t

jalim February 10, 2011 07:52AM

It's because of the Wikipedia!

Starscream February 10, 2011 07:53AM

I always wakk off after I kill someone

wrathpuppet February 10, 2011 07:45AM

Hahaha. Thanks. I needed a laugh. nt

qurdind February 10, 2011 10:12AM

I once got killed while AFK rubbing one out.

vladamir February 10, 2011 07:56AM

It was bound to happen eventually nt

daurwyn(VIP) February 10, 2011 10:49AM

lolled n/t

Stevers February 10, 2011 07:52AM

Yeah, I remember the good ol RPed days where they full-looted you and walked off before you got back. NT

Batman February 10, 2011 07:35AM

I think CF is just too much for most people

joe February 10, 2011 07:12AM

Re: I think CF is just too much for most people

Starscream February 10, 2011 07:20AM

People don't want to RP anymore.

Stevers February 10, 2011 07:11AM

People want to be part of a story...

callowin February 10, 2011 08:01AM

The problem...

briartangle February 10, 2011 11:14AM

I just use TELL and go ooc if needed because a newb is confused

daurwyn(VIP) February 10, 2011 11:19AM

Actually

daurwyn(VIP) February 10, 2011 11:00AM

Funny story...

jc99as February 10, 2011 05:56PM

Bleh

Murphy February 10, 2011 10:18PM

I don't agree that it takes 1 year.

Stevers February 10, 2011 08:53AM