okay, so...

January 17, 2013 06:13AM
If Salyeris, Ruhktanshi and Flaaayin aren't on the pillar, somebody (i.e. Graatch) make the case for why Susu should be.

In other words, in what ways is Susu's "resume" stronger than those characters' resumes. I'll start it off w/ some stats:

Total hours, hours spent as leader, total PKs, total mage PKs, mage kill %, PKpH for each:
Susu: 588 hours, 100 hours, 189, 96, 50.8%, 0.3214
Salyeris: 990 hours, 693 hours, 252, 141, 56.0%, 0.2545
Ruhktanshi: 721 hours, 329 hours, 181, 86, 47.5%, 0.2510
Flaaayin: 620 hours, 427 hours, 156, 85, 54.5%, 0.2516

Here's what I see in terms of objective "stats":

Susu has the best PKpH by far.
Susu comes in last in hours spent as leader by a long shot.
Susu comes in last (by a nose) in total hours (behind Flaaayin).
Susu comes in second to last in mage kill percentage (behind Flaaayin).
Salyeris wins hands down in total PKs, total hours and hours spent as leader. Salyers is also tops in mage kill percentage, with Flaaayin close behind.

Reading the immortal comments for all four, both Salyeris and Ruhktanshi got some criticism, as did Susu. Flaaayin's immortal comments were universally positive.

I'm tempted to say that if Salyeris (for raw stats) and Flaaayin (for super-positive imm impression and pretty good stats) aren't on the pillar, then Graatch's complaint about Susu's absence isn't really justified.
Subject Author Posted

A fun wiki page

valkenar January 16, 2013 06:46AM

Re: A fun wiki page

bajula January 16, 2013 04:00PM

Whats the Graatch vs the Pillar? (n/t)

hopelessdwarf January 16, 2013 10:17AM

He won't play again til Susubienko is put on the pillar

zannon January 16, 2013 10:20AM

I just hope they never put that char on the pillar

Stevers January 18, 2013 07:03AM

Susubienko looks like a Ukrainian surname.

Murphy January 16, 2013 04:27PM

still not sure why he thinks Subs should be on it

Quas January 16, 2013 10:31AM

Re: still not sure why he thinks Subs should be on it

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2013 01:31PM

Salyeris is not on it far as I know

zannon January 17, 2013 03:32AM

okay, so...

Isildur(VIP) January 17, 2013 06:13AM

Something funny I discovered

hug January 17, 2013 11:04AM

What I see when you look at those listed.

zannon January 17, 2013 07:37AM

Salyeris and Allysia are probably my two favorite characters of the 5th age.

wrathpuppet January 18, 2013 03:10PM

Is Akedeh on the pillar? (n/t)

NbM(VIP) January 17, 2013 09:03AM

Not there during Salyeris's life time. (n/t)

zannon January 17, 2013 09:06AM

Jinroh deleted as a HEROIMM, and because of the stupid no-delete rule applying to IMMs too, he is precluded from being on the pillar.

Sam January 16, 2013 01:37PM

Re: Jinroh deleted as a HEROIMM, and because of the stupid no-delete rule applying to IMMs too, he is precluded from being on the pillar.

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2013 01:49PM

I thought Thror posted an idea that they might make a sep thing honoring Imms / Heroimms

zannon January 17, 2013 03:33AM

Pretty sure they made an exception for Intronan. He wasn't a hero imm but I don't see other deleted imms on the pillar like Yean or Ordasen (n/t)

TJHuron January 16, 2013 06:33PM

Yup. That's what that rule does. Better to just wait out con/age death and apply to be a heroIMM with your next character. NT

Sam January 16, 2013 01:52PM

So you can have your fictional character name on an "object" very, very few people hardly ever see for the next 4-5 years?

Kez January 16, 2013 03:11PM

Don't be daft.

Tolnum January 16, 2013 04:08PM

I couldn't name any name from that long ago whether pillar or hero IMM.

Kez January 16, 2013 07:05PM

Hero IMMs don't last. The pillar does. Name 10 Hero IMMs that didn't make it. n/t

jalim January 16, 2013 03:14PM

Last? You act like this game will be around forever, that the list will go down in history.

Kez January 16, 2013 03:57PM

Re: Last? You act like this game will be around forever, that the list will go down in history.

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2013 04:58PM

Yep. Boils down to the fact you're neither a mortal nor really an imm. (n/t)

Murphy January 18, 2013 04:23AM

Just a few facts:

alansmithee January 16, 2013 01:21PM

Susu Imm comments to add to the discussion

DurNominator(VIP) January 17, 2013 10:24AM

But why do you care so much?

valkenar January 16, 2013 06:42PM

here's a fact

jhyrbian January 16, 2013 03:03PM

that's two facts. nt

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2013 04:47PM

rofl

Tolnum January 16, 2013 04:28PM

He's gonna need some burn cream. (n/t)

satchmo January 16, 2013 03:49PM

shit I better quit since half of my chars should be on the pillar by that logic

Quas January 16, 2013 01:36PM

Susu should be on The Pillar

wrathpuppet January 16, 2013 10:35AM

I'd rather see Flaaayin on there as opposed to Susu. NT

Sam January 16, 2013 11:36AM

Yeah, let all villagers know what they should be like! Flyyying! (n/t)

Murphy January 16, 2013 04:46PM

It doesn't have to be one or the other. I think they both should be up there. (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 16, 2013 11:43AM

Re: Susu should be on The Pillar

qurdind January 16, 2013 10:58AM

Is there a reason why the IMMs have specifically stated why not? (n/t)

hopelessdwarf January 16, 2013 11:28AM

Cause he whined. Pillar folks have heftier sacks and don't whine. (n/t)

Demtok January 16, 2013 01:04PM

If we're lucky. (n/t)

Demtok January 16, 2013 10:21AM

Derexal vs Deriveh (I have absolutely no idea why that guy hated me SO much. Haven't seen him around in a looong time though) (n/t)

deriveh January 16, 2013 09:14AM

Dude. You have no idea. His hate for you was like a candles flame. His hate for me was bigger then the sun in comparison. (n/t)

BattleCharmed January 16, 2013 02:47PM

This is accurate. n/t

Derexal March 20, 2013 07:33PM

Who hates Matrik? (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 16, 2013 08:36AM

Everyone should. But I don't think you people are smart enough to realize why. (n/t)

Pro January 16, 2013 08:49AM

Yes, insult everyone's intelligence in one broad stroke. Surely we can't even wipe our own collective ass. Oh wait, we can if we ban YOU (n/t)

Demtok January 16, 2013 08:58AM

You just seeth. (n/t)

Pro January 16, 2013 11:19AM

Second. He makes no contribution and spews hate constantly and without direction or reason. (n/t)

sevriis January 16, 2013 09:06AM

Show some hate filled directionless examples. (n/t)

Pro January 16, 2013 03:15PM

Me and Jalim got him to leave for at least a year. And you idiots wished for him to come back like he was the fucking Candyman.

Sam January 16, 2013 01:06PM

Did you mean to post this from your Jalim account? nt

Tolnum January 16, 2013 04:31PM

Oh shit, meant to post this from my Matrik account.

Sam January 16, 2013 04:49PM

Fuck, that was actually supposed to be from my Pro account.

Batman January 16, 2013 04:57PM

? Why am I involved with this? I think Matrik is dead as well or else he quit CF and the forums mid december. n/t

jalim January 16, 2013 03:07PM

You're a known liar. It's been proven.

Sam January 16, 2013 04:02PM

I would imagine he was banned for being the troll that he was. (n/t)

Pro January 16, 2013 03:17PM

Except you can clearly see those names were not ever banned. (n/t)

satchmo January 16, 2013 03:50PM

He's got nothing on you dude. n/t

jalim January 16, 2013 03:17PM

Except that I don't troll. Did you ever notice that Matrik argued with nearly every post anyone made?

Pro January 16, 2013 03:20PM

I thought HER husband was going to beat me up? n/t

Jerrokrar January 17, 2013 08:13AM

I disagree. NT

Batman January 16, 2013 04:24PM

He just likes to debate things. I don't think you really know what "troll" means. (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 16, 2013 03:47PM

How many times do you have to say his name in the mirror for him to appear? (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 16, 2013 02:53PM

If that was the case, 75% of QHCF would be banned. (n/t)

qurdind January 16, 2013 09:22AM

Wish he would sign up for reddit and spew over there. They've got a big enough toilet at least (n/t)

Demtok January 16, 2013 09:17AM

Please elaborate. (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 16, 2013 08:55AM

We are already making a script for the live action movie (n/t)

Demtok January 16, 2013 07:47AM



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