It's nowhere near as tough as it looks, especially for a giant.

August 03, 2009 11:27AM
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The Forsaken
Waylay and then disarm won't do much good, he'd still get his polearm back. Plus, you'd likely eat charge set since it trumps ambush.

Ambush disarm won't do much good, same as above.

Entangle would work, but then he'd just switch to whips and entwine. And entwine really screws over a ranger's wilderness fam (Bogrel got me that way, recently).

Plus, pull or drive and ranger is in even more trouble depending on proximity to civilized area.

It's a tough match up.

1) You are guaranteed to outmelee the person in question at least the first two rounds if not the whole fight. Even without haste.

2) You only open your opponent up to one command if you ambush disarm from a snare. Using a staff/spear, this move most of the time won't fail. They might get away but that's everything in CF, all it means is their spec choice ensured that they didn't die, not that they actually have a chance to kill you.

3) If you are pulled, driven or entwined, there's always wear return;brandish in the lag from entwine. You have to eyejab THEN entwine. Do you know how hard it is to get more than one command off against a properly bearcharging ranger? Mahendorian was a noob. Hakdu is not, he's using every trick I did and more. Depending on when this command goes through you may just want to bearcharge again while they have no main wield.

4) You don't have to use waylay, but snare gets rid of charge set. If it doesn't it needs to be bug boarded. Charge set or not, entangle to start or entangle from a snare is a good option, then there's only one round. If entwine is fired it will probably miss, entwine's success rate is dismal even in optimal conditions. If it lands, see above.

It's a tough matchup but polearm only stops retarded wood-elf rangers from killing you. Most cloud giants, especially with prot v. metals and prot heat cold, still stand an extremely good chance against you.
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Hakdu 628 August 03, 2009 05:51AM

32 spammed bearcharges in 2 logs = 10 bodies to butcher?

bored 375 August 03, 2009 06:23AM

Giant or mino whip/pole spec!

The Forsaken(VIP) 418 August 03, 2009 06:42AM

I'd just snare to ambush disarm and then keep spamming bearcharge.

Scrimbul 405 August 03, 2009 07:23AM

I think I need to make this clearer.

Scrimbul 332 August 03, 2009 01:10PM

Entangle is your only option, imo.

The Forsaken(VIP) 298 August 03, 2009 10:21AM

How I would deal with such said polearm guy

Hakdu 268 August 03, 2009 11:37AM

Re: How I would deal with such said polearm guy

Isildur(VIP) 321 August 03, 2009 12:12PM

A lot more felar rangers than anything else. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) 219 August 03, 2009 12:28PM

Beastcall, ambush, and then bearcharge work real well. Scrimbul's idea would not work - let's be honest, he'd just gank :p (n/t)

Balrahd(VIP) 277 August 03, 2009 11:34AM

Yah, good call on that one. Beastcall doesn't even make you vis, does it? nt

The Forsaken(VIP) 198 August 03, 2009 11:40AM

incorrect

Hakdu 275 August 03, 2009 11:42AM

That could work but I'd like to think if I were playing a giant polespec it would turn against the ranger unless ambush/snare were involved. (n/t)

Balrahd(VIP) 252 August 03, 2009 12:07PM

Tell me this then.

The Forsaken(VIP) 269 August 03, 2009 11:44AM

Re: Tell me this then.

Hakdu 288 August 03, 2009 11:50AM

It's nowhere near as tough as it looks, especially for a giant.

Scrimbul 271 August 03, 2009 11:27AM

Re: It's nowhere near as tough as it looks, especially for a giant.

The Forsaken(VIP) 259 August 03, 2009 11:39AM

My outlander had a staff almost all the time

daurwyn(VIP) 223 August 03, 2009 02:36PM

See, to me HToS is bad rp for an Outlander.

The Forsaken(VIP) 211 August 03, 2009 03:46PM

I agree

daurwyn(VIP) 259 August 03, 2009 10:21PM

vandalize. nt

Isildur(VIP) 208 August 03, 2009 04:16PM

All I'm gonna say is you haven't played the cloud giant savage side of this equation at all for you to think these are more than minor annoyances, up to and including the melee going south at random. nt

Scrimbul 224 August 03, 2009 11:52AM

Re: Entangle is your only option, imo.

Isildur(VIP) 295 August 03, 2009 11:23AM

Re: Entangle is your only option, imo.

Hakdu 312 August 03, 2009 11:56AM

Re: Entangle is your only option, imo.

Isildur(VIP) 199 August 03, 2009 12:14PM

For all of the above, I would avoid the fight or call in a pocket muter to reduce him and then flee. nt

Scrimbul 188 August 03, 2009 11:32AM

sure. txt

Isildur(VIP) 245 August 03, 2009 11:36AM

hmm. txt

Isildur(VIP) 268 August 03, 2009 10:17AM

The single command that ambush to disarm gives is what balances it.

Scrimbul 233 August 03, 2009 11:21AM

Re: The single command that ambush to disarm gives is what balances it.

Isildur(VIP) 260 August 03, 2009 11:26AM

Leading with it DOES lose you kills.

Scrimbul 238 August 03, 2009 11:29AM



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