The fact that you get only one command between coming out of a snare and being hit by ambush/disarm doesn't really become very apparent until you have either used that tactic or been hit by it. It's easy to either screw up the flee in the majority of rooms you'd get snared in, or waste that command doing get 1. everyone does it the first time they are hit with it if they don't realize the strategy and are used to owning rangers in melee easily. Also ambush disarm doesn't do a whole lot of damage.

Many of the best tactics that involve taking down a giant ranger, particularly a savage, are going to involve using multiple commands that you might or might not get even as 1 size below the ranger, and/or using weapons that are metal even if they pierce giant resist. Concealed protects you from bearcharge. It's necessary, period, unless you're a character that's going to use greeting or want to bank on being one size lower giving you enough kills to win... not likely for a non-rager. Landslide only gives you an offensive option if the ranger is stupid enough to fight you with a civilized room next to where the fight goes down... most smart rangers expecting someone with landslide will put at least two rooms between them and the nearest civilized room. They will also be difficult to drive because they are larger than you.

I don't know why everyone thinks riposte is going to scare a cloud ranger. Chances are very good that it won't: It doesn't do the kind of damage it does to other people if the ranger in question is a savage, and if you're going to base your strategy around bearcharge you pretty much must be savage for the dam redux + mace skill. Almost all the swords in these equations are going to be metal.

Crashing is moot if the ranger in question gets to flee or pull out extra weapons. Also 25 str goes a long way toward making sure crashing never fires on you in the time it would take to do all this.

Bartis is svirf hand/whip... for those of you that think entwine is going to solve anything think again: I killed him as much as he killed me. He had deathblow, resist, stoneskin and often bard resist. I was unprepped. He also got extremely lucky the first time I fought him and managed to slip three commands through the permalag, not a likely scenario for anyone not a giant or minotaur to begin with.

Not everyone is Woldrun who *did* beat me but not because of riposte, he got lucky when I was one command from getting out of the bad situation. I believe I got flurried right before brandish went through.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2009 01:13PM by Scrimbul.