Would you guys still do it, if all the hell gear crumbled when the gear left hell? Because if you are doing it for the gear, then I think you are doing it for the wrong reasons. Why do you need the uber gear to mop up on your PK range of 7? If you are doing it for the fun of exploring new things, that would be cool and would be the reason I would go to hell (I've only ever been there once like eight years ago and was lead around by a vet who used me as a tank for the mask of anazu. The trip was purely gear motivated (of which I got none) but I was fascinated by the area, until we got wiped out by some ice demons or whatever around the 5th circle. I wish I had time to explore it rather than being someone else's bitch to get gear). The fact that over 50% of hell hasn't been explored leads me to believe that people go to hell time and time again strictly for the gear... and if you are using OOC friends to get hell gear to gain an advantage over other players, then I have to say its not kosher. So I ask again, if you couldn't take any gear out of hell, would it still be that much of a draw for you?

Druc