Here you go, winner

NbM
January 13, 2008 08:49PM
WASHINGTON, March 17-To get a sense of the impact of Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, and the other Major Leaguers scheduled to testify at Congressional hearings today on steroid use, add to their number another million. That's an estimate of the number of faceless, nameless adolescent boys and girls mimicking their heroes by popping and injecting steroids. Action Points
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Steroid use is not confined to professional athletes. School children and amateur athletes are seeking a competitive edge with steroids as well. Discuss the effects of steroids with patients and caution them about potential dangers.
The numbers are disquieting. "We've got a million kids in this country who have 'cycled' on these drugs," says Penn State's Charles E. Yesalis, MPH, ScD, a pioneer in the research on anabolic steroids in sports. "These sports stars are role models to these kids."


Among 9th- to 12-grade students in the U.S., nearly 7% of males and more than 5% of females say they have used steroids at least once.


The use of anabolic steroids "has to be knocked out at the professional level for it to be knocked out at the lower level," says William O. Roberts, MD, president of the American College of Sports Medicine.


"Physicians need to recognize the signs and symptoms of steroid abuse," says Gary Wadler, MD, an associate professor of clinical medicine at New York University, and a member of the World Anti-Doping Agency. "It has to go into their differential diagnoses. I particularly emphasize this for pediatricians."


Signs and symptoms of anabolic steroid use may include:

Behavioral and psychological changes - including aggression, impulsiveness, and depression
Breast enlargement (men)
Breast shrinkage (women)
Body hair (women)
Deepening of voice (women)
Male-pattern baldness (men and women)
Acne
Striae in axilla
Testicle shrinkage
Menstrual abnormalities
Abnormal cholesterol distribution marked by very low levels of HDL
Dramatic changes in muscularity and athletic performance
And, finally, "The look," as Dr. Roberts calls it - "a little too buff, a little too much muscle and a little too enhanced."

Evidence of steroids' effect on the heart and liver, and other health problems, is conflicting. Some of the data are compelling, but many are less so -- drawn from case studies or cohorts incapable of proving causal links.


Most experts acknowledge this. "What scares me most is what we don't know," says Dr. Yesalis. "We still have yet to do an epidemiologic study of the long-term health effects of anabolic effects."


Nonetheless, say experts, the bottom line is that steroids appear to increase the potential for serious, if rare, health problems.


Here's a rundown on what is known -- and what is not.


Cardiovascular. Experts list heart and stroke risks as among their biggest worries. Steroids reduce HDL cholesterol, raise LDL, impair glucose tolerance, and increase levels of triglycerides, clotting factors, C-reactive protein, and insulin. Case reports and cohort series have linked steroids to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, myocardial infarction, sudden cardiac death, and thrombotic events, but so far it's difficult to prove a direct causal connection.
"The data are scant," says Dr. Wadler, "But from looking at case reports I have been convinced that (anabolic steroid use) represents a cardiovascular risk." Others agree.


Hepatic. "Oral anabolic agents are hepatotoxic," says Dr. Yesalis. They lead to cholestatic jaundice, peliosis hepatis (a condition in which microscopic pools of blood are present throughout the liver parenchyma, which may lead to congestion and necrosis), and hepatocellular hyperplasia and adenomas -- problems that are mostly reversible when steroid use ends.
Although some allege a steroid connection to liver cancer, "that hasn't been established," says Dr. Yesalis. But even benign tumors pose a risk. "If a benign tumor ruptures, you hemorrhage to death," says Dr. Yesalis, as at least two case studies have documented.


Masculinization of females. A number of hormonal changes occur when females use the primary male sex hormone. "Permanent masculinization can take place," says Dr. Yesalis.

Male reproductive abnormalities. These include testicular shrinkage, and a reduction in endogenous testosterone, sperm count, and sperm motility.

Growth plates. Ironically, to become more muscular, some steroid users may be giving up stature because androgens hasten epiphyseal closure. "High doses can shut down their growth plates," says Dr. Yesalis.

Erythrocytosis. Erythrocytosis is a common side effect of pharmacologic doses of all androgens, probably due largely to direct androgen stimulation of erythropoiesis.

Musculoskeletal injuries. Case studies have attributed tendon injuries and neuropathies to steroids. Researchers haven't yet established a cause-effect link.

Prostatic cancer. Case reports, but evidence lacking.

Compromised immune function. Evidence lacking.

Anabolic steroids have the potential to wreak havoc on adolescents and young adults. Some observers say their psychological effects -- mood shifts, aggression, so-called "'roid rage," even suicide -- are as profound and dangerous as the physiological ones.


However, there isn't yet sufficient scientific evidence to declare steroids the root cause of all of these problems, says Dr. Yesalis.


It's even possible that increased aggression among users is a placebo effect. In a surprising 1994 double-blinded study, men who received placebo were judged to be more aggressive and impulsive than those who received testosterone.


"Anticipation of the aggressiveness related to steroid use may lead to actual violent acts and become, in effect, an excuse for aggression," write Dr. Yesalis and Michael S. Bahrke, PhD, in the current Research Digest of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports.


"We've established pretty well that kids become psychologically dependent on these drugs," says Dr. Yesalis.


"But is there a causal relationship between 'roid rage' and steroids? I don't believe so," he says. "Am I more suspicious [of the connection] now than I was a decade ago? Yes."


Primary source: Research Digest of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports
Source reference:
Yesalis CE, Bahrke MS. Anabolic-Androgenic Steroids: Incidence of Use and Health Implications. Research Digest of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, March 2005.
Subject Author Posted

I'm trying to gain muscle mass and could use some tips

nightshade January 11, 2008 04:50PM

In the mean time, wear heavy boots or you might blow away with the wind!~

abernyte January 15, 2008 04:54AM

Normal healthy diet + protein shake/bar after heavier excercise will suffice

DurNominator(VIP) January 13, 2008 08:30AM

I was about the same...

Java January 15, 2008 12:13PM

Lift weights nt

entropissed January 13, 2008 07:27AM

Wow, tons of good information... thanks! Lets see how I'm doing with this so far...

nightshade January 12, 2008 12:49PM

Best advice I can give. From a Uni Nutrition student here.

cointreau January 13, 2008 11:45AM

Re: Best advice I can give. From a Uni Nutrition student here.

Bryan January 15, 2008 03:17PM

Re: Best advice I can give. From a Uni Nutrition student here.

cointreau January 15, 2008 05:34PM

Re: Best advice I can give. From a Uni Nutrition student here.

Bryan January 15, 2008 06:59PM

Re: Best advice I can give. From a Uni Nutrition student here.

cointreau January 15, 2008 09:44PM

Re: Best advice I can give. From a Uni Nutrition student here.

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2008 10:31AM

You got it in one.

cointreau January 16, 2008 10:59AM

Re: You got it in one.

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2008 11:54AM

I agree with this.

Death_Claw January 13, 2008 01:07PM

Best advice I've seen yet. Super Cosign. NT

Sam January 13, 2008 12:07PM

Some comments on that

cenatar January 12, 2008 05:08PM

Re: Some comments on that

Isildur(VIP) January 13, 2008 06:52AM

Re: Some comments on that

Bryan January 15, 2008 04:45PM

Re: Some comments on that

Isildur(VIP) January 16, 2008 07:07AM

Your comments are riddled with misinformation. ~

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 06:15PM

The thing is

cenatar January 13, 2008 01:54AM

Re: Wow, tons of good information... thanks! Lets see how I'm doing with this so far...

Bryan January 12, 2008 04:27PM

Re: Wow, tons of good information... thanks! Lets see how I'm doing with this so far...

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 02:53PM

Easy for CF workers:

Batman January 12, 2008 08:39AM

This is the most retarded post I've read yet...

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 10:24AM

Re: This is the most retarded post I've read yet...

Batman January 13, 2008 05:35AM

Diet =! fewer calories.

_Magus_ January 15, 2008 02:12PM

and here's why your post is perhaps more retarded. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 12, 2008 12:32PM

Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 02:46PM

Heh....You're honestly making yourself look like a dumbass.

Batman January 13, 2008 05:39AM

Re: Heh....You're honestly making yourself look like a dumbass.

_Magus_ January 15, 2008 02:18PM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

Isildur(VIP) January 12, 2008 07:53PM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

Bryan January 12, 2008 08:36PM

Furthermore

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 08:18PM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 08:14PM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

Isildur(VIP) January 12, 2008 08:20PM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 08:32PM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

Isildur(VIP) January 13, 2008 04:52AM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 09:41AM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

Isildur(VIP) January 13, 2008 11:02AM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 04:07PM

Re: Isildur, please don't throw misinformation out on a subject I know much about.

Isildur(VIP) January 13, 2008 09:19PM

The problem with your argument is you're referring to starvation.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 09:39PM

Two things.

Death_Claw January 14, 2008 05:26AM

Fat's primary function is to prevent you from starving and insulate you.

Death_Claw January 13, 2008 01:03PM

You're an idiot.

Death_Claw January 13, 2008 10:10AM

Re: You're an idiot.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 10:37AM

Re: You're an idiot.

Death_Claw January 13, 2008 10:50AM

Re: You're an idiot.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 11:14AM

Re: You're an idiot.

Death_Claw January 13, 2008 12:58PM

Re: (something other than original title, heh)

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 01:25PM

You're not getting it...

Death_Claw January 13, 2008 04:37PM

Re: You're not getting it...

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 05:16PM

And the opposite of that is true...

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 05:19PM

Magus is owned. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) January 13, 2008 06:09AM

Wow, you're fucking retarded. It's awesome to see majority of VIP's do is troll.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 09:41AM

You deserve it though?

Sam January 13, 2008 11:41AM

About nuts

cenatar January 13, 2008 05:21AM

Cenatar is an expert on nuts. huhuhuhuhuh. nt

Isildur(VIP) January 13, 2008 10:41AM

Re: and here's why your post is perhaps more retarded. txt

Bryan January 12, 2008 01:34PM

Re: and here's why your post is perhaps more retarded. txt

Batman January 13, 2008 05:37AM

Re: and here's why your post is perhaps more retarded. txt

Bryan January 15, 2008 05:16PM

I gotta call bullshit on that one. Building muscle mass all you gotta do is work out.

Sam January 12, 2008 04:56PM

By the way, who the fuck are you? Prothero?

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 06:24PM

He's AA. nt

DurNominator(VIP) January 14, 2008 11:57AM

CHAR ASSASSINATION! ARGGGGGGGGGGGH CHEATING VIP FAGS!

Sam January 14, 2008 06:42PM

Oh, that explains it. Just as fucking annoying.

_Magus_ January 14, 2008 01:45PM

What's that make you? A baby on an airplane, or something like that?

Sam January 16, 2008 02:56PM

Whatever is worse than that in your own mind, that's what you are. :-P

_Magus_ January 16, 2008 06:22PM

Nope.

Pro January 14, 2008 10:55AM

You'll put on crappy, stringy, undeveloped muscles. Sure.

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 06:13PM

Healthy is a completely different question assclown.

Sam January 12, 2008 08:25PM

Re: Healthy is a completely different question assclown.

Bryan January 12, 2008 08:47PM

Quit changing the subject away from you being a tool, toolbox nt

NbM January 13, 2008 11:20AM

You're ignorant. nt

Bryan January 12, 2008 05:28PM

Not really. I use my own personal experience to come to that conclusion.

Sam January 12, 2008 06:10PM

You're 5'8 190 something? Your personal experience doesn't say much. nt

Bryan January 12, 2008 06:51PM

There's nothing wrong with those measurements, without more info. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 13, 2008 05:37AM

Except he posted for the biggest looser forum...

Bryan January 15, 2008 03:22PM

I wouldn't ever describe me as fatass. Anymore than you like being called a roided out fool. NT

Sam January 16, 2008 03:58PM

Good thing I'm not on juice.If I was, I would be fucking huge, tempting though. nt

Bryan January 16, 2008 04:53PM

Yup, silly random fuk Bryan doesn't know what the hell he is talking about

NbM January 13, 2008 11:22AM

Heh, you're pretty fucking immature.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 04:09PM

NT above, and NT here too nt

NbM January 13, 2008 05:50PM

I was 155 in High School and could run a five minute mile if pressed.

Sam January 12, 2008 08:21PM

Re: I was 155 in High School and could run a five minute mile if pressed.

Bryan January 12, 2008 08:36PM

Nice last word. My last word is bigger and better, however. NT

Sam January 12, 2008 09:03PM

You seem to think your own personal experience describes everyone elses. Wrong. nt

nightshade January 12, 2008 06:29PM

When did I say that?

Sam January 12, 2008 08:22PM

You've stated at least three times

nightshade January 13, 2008 05:45AM

You sir, are a dumbass.

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 06:14PM

Hahah, says the man who admittedly has to result to roids to get results? nt

NbM January 12, 2008 02:01PM

Re: Hahah, says the man who admittedly has to result to roids to get results? nt

Bryan January 12, 2008 02:43PM

Yup, I am lazy and a fatass, you sure did your homework champ

NbM January 12, 2008 07:45PM

Re: Yup, I am lazy and a fatass, you sure did your homework champ

Bryan January 12, 2008 08:47PM

So basically

NbM January 13, 2008 12:24PM

And you have nothing better to say than be a lame troll?

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 04:11PM

Awww, wittle magus finks he's tough? How cute nt

NbM January 13, 2008 05:10PM

Yup. That's why I thought. Troll.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 05:24PM

You want me to say something constructive?

NbM January 13, 2008 05:47PM

Re: You want me to say something constructive?

Bryan January 15, 2008 07:59PM

Say whatever you want, you don't know shit and a still a fag, simple really nt

NbM January 16, 2008 01:53PM

Yup, just what I thought. You have nothing. Except to troll. Useless is the best word for you. nt

Bryan January 16, 2008 04:54PM

You have no clue who I am

NbM January 18, 2008 10:25AM

Takes a troll to know a troll.

_Magus_ January 18, 2008 12:18PM

Says the roid rager who threatened to full sac everyone on the main board, hurray for turdburglers

NbM January 19, 2008 06:09AM

rofl, you have no clue.

_Magus_ January 19, 2008 04:38PM

No clue that it was just to get a rise, like most of your posts? nah, I didn't know that nt

NbM January 21, 2008 05:23PM

Any thing you'd say wouldn't be constructive... since you don't know shit about it.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 07:39PM

Keep being gay small nuts. Have fun with your roids. NT

Sam January 12, 2008 09:05PM

Really shows how uneducated you are about steroids. ~

_Magus_ January 12, 2008 10:25PM

You keep saying that

NbM January 13, 2008 06:16PM

I haven't ever taken steroids. But at least I'm educated about them.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 07:40PM

The media? Jesus you idiot, how about multiple medical studies, fag nt

NbM January 13, 2008 08:02PM

Again, you're just reciting outdated media hooplah.

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 08:24PM

Here you go, winner

NbM January 13, 2008 08:49PM

yup, dumbass.

Bryan January 15, 2008 07:33PM

Dirty roider. NT

Sam January 16, 2008 02:54PM

*yawn* Tell me, is ignorance blissful?

_Magus_ January 17, 2008 01:36AM

You would know better than I. NT

Sam January 17, 2008 02:35AM

Good one, captain hilarious.

_Magus_ January 18, 2008 12:19PM

ROFL

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 09:02PM

Wow, roid ragers.

NbM January 13, 2008 09:16PM

Heh, roid ragers. I noticed after I hit post. I'm a loser. ~

_Magus_ January 13, 2008 09:25PM

err. Diet = results. nt.

Hobotora January 12, 2008 12:48PM

Stay lean.

Hobotora January 11, 2008 10:26PM

Lot's of info here... Will try to clean it up for you.

Bryan January 11, 2008 09:16PM

Stick with the basic exercises first.

_Magus_ January 11, 2008 07:40PM

Supplements

_Magus_ January 11, 2008 08:13PM

Re: Supplements

Bryan January 11, 2008 08:28PM

Re: Supplements

_Magus_ January 11, 2008 08:29PM

Re: Supplements

Bryan January 11, 2008 08:32PM

Oh, and as an aside...

_Magus_ January 11, 2008 07:48PM

Calories, protein, and creatine

bobbyp January 11, 2008 06:59PM

Re: Calories, protein, and creatine

Bryan January 11, 2008 08:11PM

As an aside, SizeOn creatine sucks ass compared to others.

_Magus_ January 11, 2008 08:00PM

I'm using cellmass as my post workout drink...

Bryan January 11, 2008 08:13PM

Re: I'm using cellmass as my post workout drink...

_Magus_ January 11, 2008 08:15PM

Dude. He's 122lbs. Fuck the cardio.

_Magus_ January 11, 2008 07:59PM

Calories, calories, calories...

Bryan