Exactly right.

December 30, 2009 10:40AM
It should be factored into the cost of dinner beforehand. If you can only spend 20 bucks on dinner, don't go to a place with ten dollar entrees, go to a place with seven dollar entrees.

From a financial perspective, if you literally cannot afford the 15% tip then simply eating at the restaurant is a foolish luxury expenditure and you should be saving the money. Spending 100% of the money you have is a fiscally irresponsible decision. It's not your server's fault you went somewhere that you couldn't really afford. Nobody's gonna let you in the movie free if you only have enough cash for popcorn and a drink. Your real estate agent isn't just gonna forget her commission if you spend every cent you have on the house she helped you find. The best tippers, consistently, are other people who work in the hospitality industry. Not because they have the most money, but because they most understand how important tipping is.

From a practical perspective, you're tipping these people both for refilling your drink so you don't get thirsty and for not fucking with the food that you're about to put into your body. Should you have to tip for your waiter to do an average job? In a perfect world, of course not. In the real world, though, it's worth the 15% to get food thats not cold (or worse.)

From a human perspective, people who eat at restaurants and don't tip (unless its deserved because of poor service) are uncaring, selfish pieces of shit who probably can't appreciate just how many assholes can fit in one restaurant at one time. For anyone who has never waited tables, there's nothing quite like being proud of how well you handled the table full of super bitchy old blue-haired women that all wanted their water with "just a little bit" of ice ("oh no, that's not enough, take it back ... but that's too much!") and then wanted to know every ingredient of every dish on the menu, then sent back their first entree because it was spicy (even though you told them on the front end it was a little hot) and then set at the table for another hour so you couldn't re-seat it, only to have those old hags leave you just enough change on the table for a couple hours in a parking meter. It's completely demoralizing. And I know everyone's job sucks, but it's like if you boss didn't give you your traditional Christmas bonus because he already spent it on blow and hookers. Yah, he's not legally obligated to give it to you, but that's just sorta how things are done and it's an absolute slap in the face to not give it.

P.S. I don't wait tables anymore, so I don't really have a vested interest.
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New Airport rules - Anyone experienced them yet?

Yhorian(VIP) December 29, 2009 07:59PM

I flew just after it happened

daurwyn(VIP) January 02, 2010 03:48PM

4 domestic flights this last week.

Quixotic December 31, 2009 04:57PM

Slight Tangent (just went through airport security)

Lokain December 30, 2009 10:21AM

Next time, don't wear your Hezbolla polo shirt. (n/t)

rathamon December 30, 2009 01:59PM

but it matches his snazzy cargo shorts (n/t)

hopelessdwarf December 30, 2009 05:33PM

This guy seems to understand it.

Flipside Oreo December 30, 2009 04:19AM

Great article.

Yhorian(VIP) December 30, 2009 07:10AM

Tried to tell you about Cleveland.

Sam December 29, 2009 08:57PM

Re: New Airport rules - Anyone experienced them yet?

rathamon December 29, 2009 08:18PM

Tipping = totally stupid

Jatropha December 29, 2009 10:51PM

Sartre totally slam-dunked it, AMIRITE? nt

Batman December 30, 2009 05:03AM

Maybe in your part of the country

rathamon December 30, 2009 12:01AM

Tipping is a completely foreign habit for me

DurNominator(VIP) December 30, 2009 04:38AM

Tipping is practiced throughout the USA. I was talking about people just being nice for a tip (n/t)

rathamon December 30, 2009 07:32AM

Tipping is practiced everywhere, but...

Splntrd December 30, 2009 07:29AM

Re: New Airport rules - Anyone experienced them yet?

Yhorian(VIP) December 29, 2009 08:22PM

figure it out yourself? Really?

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid December 30, 2009 08:19PM

Spoken like someone who doesn't travel abroad

daurwyn(VIP) January 02, 2010 03:52PM

Are you seriously arguing about the quality of food as compared to England?

jegec December 30, 2009 12:36AM

Re: grocery stores and wait staff

rathamon December 30, 2009 01:18AM

The problem is "server's wage".

Splntrd December 30, 2009 07:35AM

Re: The problem is "server's wage".

rathamon December 30, 2009 09:33AM

My problem with server's wage isn't that servers don't make money or shouldn't be tipped.

Splntrd December 30, 2009 09:39AM

I think the real problem is that tips are taxed. (n/t)

madcap December 30, 2009 05:13PM

Re: I think the real problem is that tips are taxed.

madcap December 30, 2009 05:17PM

I believe your math is wrong

rathamon December 30, 2009 05:57PM

Yeah, my math is always fishy. (n/t)

madcap December 30, 2009 06:10PM

Not exactly how it works in my understanding.

bell December 30, 2009 09:16AM

Then you better wait on me like you need the dollar. : P

The Forsaken(VIP) December 30, 2009 10:25AM

I'd rather carry my food to my seat instead of spending 5 bucks for some twit to do it for me and pretend he likes to. NT

Batman December 30, 2009 12:01PM

I disagree. While not legally entitled ...

bell December 30, 2009 10:45AM

Re: I disagree. While not legally entitled ...

rathamon December 30, 2009 01:55PM

And then the price would be what it was told to be.

DurNominator(VIP) December 30, 2009 02:09PM

Tip jars on counters

rathamon December 30, 2009 02:34PM

Two advantages with a non-mandatory tip system:

Flipside Oreo December 30, 2009 02:25PM

Sure, but, the way it ACTUALLY works in most places is a little different...

Splntrd December 30, 2009 09:29AM

So, if I can't afford a tip I shouldn't go out to eat, period? NT

Batman December 30, 2009 09:25AM

Exactly right.

bell December 30, 2009 10:40AM

I'd rather tip the chef, or someone doing ACTUAL work. NT

Batman December 30, 2009 11:54AM

Chefs make enough that they don't need your tip. Nothing under a 50 will excite them. n/t

Someone Not Special, Esquire December 30, 2009 10:30PM

So it doesn't matter that the chef is doing something useful, or the harder work of the two.....

Batman December 31, 2009 06:31AM

Except the chef doesn't have to put up with your cheap ass.

madcap December 30, 2009 05:22PM

Neither does the waiter. They don't have to 'deal' with me. The chef has to meet my idea of 'good food'. The waiter carries it. WOW. nt

Batman December 30, 2009 05:30PM

ADDENDUM: I learned, from this thread, there are many waiters who play CF. NT

Batman December 31, 2009 06:24AM

You get to choose between toning down the trolling and a ban.

DurNominator(VIP) December 31, 2009 09:32AM

Lame. (n/t)

bell December 31, 2009 10:49AM

That pisses me off. I spent time on that. NT

Batman December 31, 2009 09:48AM

Think about that the next time you think of repeatedly calling people faggots with no real input. nt

DurNominator(VIP) December 31, 2009 11:07AM

Did you miss the joke? NT

Batman December 31, 2009 01:00PM

Didn't read it all carefully.

DurNominator(VIP) December 31, 2009 01:27PM

That's fine. BUT ADMIT IT WAS HUMOROUS. NT

Batman December 31, 2009 02:23PM

It wasn't humorous at all. Stupid ≠ funny. (n/t)

Starscream December 31, 2009 03:06PM

I can tell right now its people like you that make the service industry stressful.

madcap December 30, 2009 05:32PM

Well, at least not at places you should tip. Go to Mickey D's. Or your mom's house. (n/t)

bell December 30, 2009 10:58AM

For a tip drill. nt

Flipside Oreo December 30, 2009 02:10PM

Regarding tipping

rathamon December 29, 2009 09:00PM

Even if they add it

whiteraven December 30, 2009 11:39AM

Easy fucking job, low fucking pay. NT

Batman December 30, 2009 12:04PM

Uhm. I've never seen anyone tip the bag boy at a grocery store. No wonder they wanted to help you put it in your car.

PaulO December 29, 2009 08:40PM

If they're part of the union (and most are) it's against the rules to take tips as a courtesy clerk n/t

Lokain December 30, 2009 09:59AM



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