Graham's post from the previous page...txt

October 15, 2007 05:26AM
> The UK has private health pension companies alongside our national health service. <br> <br>> Why do you think that this is absolutely impossible in America and will destroy your entire way of healthcare? <br> <br>Nobody thinks it will entirely destroy the U.S. health care system. There will always be the private option for those who can afford it. What some think is that a nationalized system will result in care for the "average person" that, while not terrible, is inferior to what they enjoy now. <br> <br>The main complaint, though, is expense. Such a system would clearly improve the lot of those who absolutely can't afford health care right now, even if the care they receive under the new plan is sub-standard. Sub-standard beats non-existent. But the plan will be financed out of the pockets of everyone else, necessarily reducing their standard of living, purchasing power, etc. etc. <br> <br>It may also be "more expensive" than similar plans implemented in Europe, since the U.S. citizenry is more stratified, i.e. a larger percentage of poor folks who would need to be cared for under such a plan. <br> <br>> Prothero, you've yet to explain why you are happy to pay for socialised military/police/fire support yet are unwilling to pay for health. <br> <br>This is a red herring. Police and fire are handled at the state and local level and are funded by property tax. Everybody who isn't homeless (including renters) pays property tax in some form or another (possibly indirectly in the form of higher rent). The only exception would be those who live in federally subsidized housing, but then Pro probably doesn't support that either. (Which would be consistent). <br> <br>Military protection must necessarily be national in order to be effective, and it's provided for in the U.S. Constitution as a power of the federal government. If poor people and rich people are living in the same locale, you can't selectively protect one and not the other from foreign aggression.
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Graham's post from the previous page...txt

Isildur 523 October 15, 2007 05:26AM

Take a look at the L-curve

DurNominator 316 October 15, 2007 06:14AM

Not sure I agree.

Death_Claw 290 October 15, 2007 06:50AM

Re: Not sure I agree.

DurNominator 329 October 15, 2007 08:49AM

Wow. Way to ignore my entire post...

Death_Claw 308 October 15, 2007 01:10PM

And can deduct the wages they pay to these everyone else in taxation

DurNominator 337 October 15, 2007 09:45PM

Do you know how business works?

Death_Claw 350 October 16, 2007 10:23AM

Sorry about the run-on sentences. Imagine periods where necessary. n/t

Death_Claw 330 October 16, 2007 10:27AM

The thing is, &quot;super rich&quot; isn't based on income.

Balrahd 293 October 15, 2007 03:39PM

Fair Tax ftw nt

Lokain 322 October 15, 2007 04:01PM

Re: Take a look at the L-curve

Isildur 320 October 15, 2007 07:56AM

But the potential is there. And wouldn't be wasted helping everyone out. nt

Yhorian 302 October 15, 2007 02:49PM

A question for the US folks.

Cenatar 321 October 15, 2007 08:04AM

I haven't tried that, but if you find an easy way for me to scare up some quotes

Scrimbul 274 October 15, 2007 09:36AM

My mom had a relatively minor bout with cancer

Rade 331 October 15, 2007 03:18PM

That sucks

Cenatar 310 October 17, 2007 02:44AM

unimaginable debt, you forgot to mention retirement nt

Rade 375 October 18, 2007 05:29AM

Re: A question for the US folks.

Doge 284 October 18, 2007 09:48AM

Re: Graham's post from the previous page...txt

Graham 310 October 15, 2007 11:16AM

Re: Graham's post from the previous page...txt

Isildur 343 October 15, 2007 11:32AM

America is fairly robust.

Death_Claw 384 October 15, 2007 01:13PM



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