Do you know how business works?

October 16, 2007 10:23AM
The earnings disparity is at the individual levels. People, ultimately, invest. People, ultimately, expect to profit. Investment profits are paid to these individuals with high income. Hedge funds profiting from derivatives trading which ultimately results in higher share movement which ultimately leads to increased investment in securities. <br> <br>In other words, your "L" about hedge fund managers and CEO's is not based on corporate wages. Its based on what these people take home in CEO/performance compensation and its part of what makes the world go round in terms of American economics. <br> <br>Here's an example in terms of corporate earnings. A corporation invests in a subsidiary with the expectation of a profit. Their investment then does two things - it provides capital necessary for growth and advises the subsidiary on how it should operate to maximize its managerial effectiveness. They do this in exchange for earnings growth which in turn is profit. Taxes create a dissincentive to do that, or rather they re-adjust what constitutes a lucrative investment. That's not a process you should be messing with, it works well now and helps everyone. <br> <br>In terms of personal investors, the largest income earners are people who are benefitting from private capital investment. Derivatives trading (hedge funds) and also venture capital. Ultimately derivatives trading increases stock movements which allows companies to better fund their operations through common stock offerings. Venture capital and private equity investments are high interest lines of credit extended to start ups and growth companies to fund their growth where banks won't take the risks. Both are important parts of our economy and part of what enables entrepreneurial success in the United States. <br> <br>In other words, its very stupid to think you can just tax the hell out of the people who ultimately play a large role in our economy without any adverse affects. <br> <br>Especially to some large extent because in the global market we live in today there is an interdependency required thanks to trade deficits and largely due to a combination of the realities of modern 1st world living as well as the after-effects of social policies which have impacted the economies of 1st world nations. In short - you need to be able to import goods because your country is unable to furnish them internally - therefore you are reliant on China and others to create your goods. China in turn is reliant on the American dollar to fund its growth. We're all economically connected. In essence, when we benefit so do you and vice versa. <br> <br>The last thing Europe as a whole needs is a protectionist, socialist United States and given our trade deficit if we were to impose socialism here on a larger scale than is already present and further increase our tax burden while attempting to maintain our current inflation rates its very possible in the not-too-distant-future we may be forced into protectionist policies in order to sustain our economy.
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Graham's post from the previous page...txt

Isildur 523 October 15, 2007 05:26AM

Take a look at the L-curve

DurNominator 316 October 15, 2007 06:14AM

Not sure I agree.

Death_Claw 290 October 15, 2007 06:50AM

Re: Not sure I agree.

DurNominator 329 October 15, 2007 08:49AM

Wow. Way to ignore my entire post...

Death_Claw 308 October 15, 2007 01:10PM

And can deduct the wages they pay to these everyone else in taxation

DurNominator 337 October 15, 2007 09:45PM

Do you know how business works?

Death_Claw 349 October 16, 2007 10:23AM

Sorry about the run-on sentences. Imagine periods where necessary. n/t

Death_Claw 330 October 16, 2007 10:27AM

The thing is, &quot;super rich&quot; isn't based on income.

Balrahd 292 October 15, 2007 03:39PM

Fair Tax ftw nt

Lokain 322 October 15, 2007 04:01PM

Re: Take a look at the L-curve

Isildur 320 October 15, 2007 07:56AM

But the potential is there. And wouldn't be wasted helping everyone out. nt

Yhorian 302 October 15, 2007 02:49PM

A question for the US folks.

Cenatar 321 October 15, 2007 08:04AM

I haven't tried that, but if you find an easy way for me to scare up some quotes

Scrimbul 274 October 15, 2007 09:36AM

My mom had a relatively minor bout with cancer

Rade 331 October 15, 2007 03:18PM

That sucks

Cenatar 310 October 17, 2007 02:44AM

unimaginable debt, you forgot to mention retirement nt

Rade 375 October 18, 2007 05:29AM

Re: A question for the US folks.

Doge 284 October 18, 2007 09:48AM

Re: Graham's post from the previous page...txt

Graham 310 October 15, 2007 11:16AM

Re: Graham's post from the previous page...txt

Isildur 343 October 15, 2007 11:32AM

America is fairly robust.

Death_Claw 384 October 15, 2007 01:13PM



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