Re: You know you wouldn't see it that way

March 29, 2010 02:15PM
Do I think this guy would have my number? Sure thing, if he kicked me around ever time we met, I sure would. But boy would I totally be jones over him if I killed him even once, and he never killed me. Don't tell me you wouldn't either. That who, "You tried your best to kill me and never did, but I got you!" You know that's the way a lot of people would look at it. That is unless you really think the game is about making people run and not about killing them. Then sure you would be right. But if that were the case, then I bet the imms would have found a way to track it to show the statistic. And you would see a whole lot more logs with people just makin them run. But you don't.

So let me ask this more simply.

Two builds, exactly the same, say Human Dex/Dagger warriors. One good, One Evil. Heck lets even throw in that one is Maran, and the Other Elite Blade. Both played by equally skilled opponents. Both RP their alignements exactly the way that they should. The Goodie never attacks a neutral that isn't doing bad things(IE killing elves), he doesn't kill Neutral Sentient NPC's for Gear or Gold. The Evil, plays evil. Does what needs to get done to advance himself. Make alliances with anyone he needs to to gain in power. Kills anyone that gets in his way, etc....

Now project for me the PK counts at the end of 600 hours for each of these people. Be fair and use the stats that Valg has posted. Or just even look at target ratios. Evil has a potential of 100% targets in the game. Assuming that evil outweighs the other two aligns, say 50% to 25%, and 25%, Best case is that a goodie has half the number of real targets give or take.

Do I think that there are builds that will trash a good number of other builds out there? Sure do. With the exception of the classes that require a good align(Paladin), I can't think of any that a goodie has the upperhand over an evil in game mechanics. Sure Goodies can request, but take a look at Galnor. They have to be careful and use a lot more RP when requesting items, or it gets taken away. What else do Goodies have to balance out the fact that evil has a much more relaxed set of RP restrictions?
Subject Author Posted

Jesus christ, com 'wrath' is bullshit at low levels.

aussie13 March 27, 2010 05:56PM

That is what low levels are for. Co bash, or just get away without any fighting (n/t)

Engurd March 28, 2010 12:09PM

Yeah, its hard to deal with sometimes, but...

vortexmagus March 28, 2010 10:09AM

This is why

daurwyn(VIP) March 28, 2010 11:39AM

I think you misunderstand what the IMMs mean when they talk about balance

NeverMindTheWarlocks March 29, 2010 11:58AM

Except

daurwyn(VIP) March 29, 2010 12:37PM

I notice a huge difference.

jafel March 30, 2010 11:58AM

Most imms say

daurwyn(VIP) March 30, 2010 04:31PM

As per Nep, killing neutral guildguards to get to evil is ok, even for paladins.

NeverMindTheWarlocks March 30, 2010 01:15PM

Yup, agree 100% nt. (n/t)

NeverMindTheWarlocks March 29, 2010 04:32PM

I believe this is more evocative of class balance than align balance

vortexmagus March 29, 2010 08:18AM

Re: This is why

Welverin March 28, 2010 02:13PM

It is what he's talking about

daurwyn(VIP) March 28, 2010 10:36PM

Re: It is what he's talking about

Welverin March 29, 2010 02:27AM

I think you just agreed with Daurwyn

pendragon_surtr March 29, 2010 03:34AM

Re: I think you just agreed with Daurwyn

Welverin March 29, 2010 05:15AM

It depends

daurwyn(VIP) March 29, 2010 06:47AM

Re: It depends

Welverin March 29, 2010 08:07AM

You know you wouldn't see it that way

daurwyn(VIP) March 29, 2010 11:47AM

Re: You know you wouldn't see it that way

Welverin March 29, 2010 02:15PM

Re: You know you wouldn't see it that way

daurwyn(VIP) March 29, 2010 09:36PM

Re: You know you wouldn't see it that way

Welverin March 30, 2010 01:15AM

I'm a vet

daurwyn(VIP) March 30, 2010 04:30PM

Play hero ranks

alex March 30, 2010 04:58AM

One thing I've learned is to just walk away from some opponents.

cointreau March 28, 2010 12:31AM

Moar saves. But yes, that doesn't really help. If you are a race that is vuln to wrath you can probably eat some stoneskin preps without too much to worry about though. (n/t)

Scrimbul March 27, 2010 10:01PM



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