So you don't see it as a shortcut?

K-B
January 28, 2012 12:22PM
That's my main issue with it. It "feels" like their taking an easy way out, or their shortchanging the system. In past years I really didn't see a significant numbers increase in arial/cloud/svirf. It seemed to be pretty even, or only slightly favored towards those three classes, but recently there are just too many arial/cloud/svirfs to overlook. Again, in my opinon, ragers aren't supposed to have an easy way of doing things, it SHOULD be difficult to be a rager. Before, if a few people were abusing what I would call a shortcut I wouldn't really say much about it, but with the recent numbers I think the issue should be raised.

At a certain point I will just agree to disagree with you, because I truly hate the flame/troll wars that go on in this forum, but I really see the situation differently than you, I think.
Subject Author Posted

Why does it feel like every villager now-a-days is svirf, arial, or cloud?

K-B January 27, 2012 01:31PM

In Which We Discuss Why You are Mistaken:

wrathpuppet January 28, 2012 03:56AM

Arial warrior is the third most popular combo in the game. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) January 29, 2012 12:43AM

I hate arials. (n/t)

Bendak January 29, 2012 12:40AM

racist. nt

Isildur(VIP) January 29, 2012 11:30AM

This doesn't prove me mistaken at all. txt

K-B January 28, 2012 11:29AM

Well, only two resist lightning items in the game, and ragers can't use one. Not to mention they have no way to resist water.

Sam January 28, 2012 04:25PM

I disagree...

wrathpuppet January 28, 2012 11:52AM

So you don't see it as a shortcut?

K-B January 28, 2012 12:22PM

Ragers are not Masochists

Moligant January 30, 2012 12:15PM

No, I don't.

wrathpuppet January 28, 2012 01:59PM

Sorry, just because something has been around with nothing changing for a long time is not a valid argument against change. (n/t)

Artificial January 28, 2012 06:08PM

Now you're just putting words in my mouth.

wrathpuppet January 29, 2012 03:57AM

How many of those felar and human were neutral? (n/t)

Artificial January 28, 2012 04:27AM

11/19 Felar 10/14 Human (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 28, 2012 04:30AM

Just going by PBFs for all times, we see that there are 25 goods, 176 neutrals, and 90 evil in battle.

Artificial January 28, 2012 04:39AM

Neutral battle means unless you're a dwarf, no fighting Outlanders, and obviously minimally fighting Fort. Main benefit? No prot v neutral in the game :) NT

Sam January 28, 2012 04:22PM

On the other hand, Fort mages are more likely to play conservatively against you.

DurNominator(VIP) January 29, 2012 03:52AM

forgot about the arials...how bout them? (n/t)

Artificial January 28, 2012 04:33AM

19/29 Arials. Is lame ranking not enough of a downside for neutrals? (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 28, 2012 04:39AM

Clearly not, because of the significant advantage in fighting nexus and people with protection, imo, with zero downside. (n/t)

Artificial January 28, 2012 04:40AM

I don't understand what you want.

wrathpuppet January 28, 2012 04:53AM

I don't understand your argument at all

vortexmagus January 31, 2012 01:41AM

Does anyone actually argue that ranking as battle is hard? You have 2 of your bros with you. No ones gonna jump you.

Artificial January 28, 2012 05:00AM

I'm talking about the lack of an XP modifier for neutrals. As for Nexus:

wrathpuppet January 28, 2012 05:08AM

True, however...

esfergref January 28, 2012 09:20AM

Why is there always a Fire/Sword in Empire? Because it just works. cookiecutter is a word for a reason. (n/t)

Dirt January 28, 2012 12:03AM

Fire/Sword Empire isn't a build that removes a significant downside to picking Empire. (n/t)

Artificial January 28, 2012 12:06AM

Several reasons.

esfergref January 27, 2012 07:44PM

I agree with you, but the point im making is...

K-B January 27, 2012 08:01PM

In truth...

Forsooth January 28, 2012 09:41AM

I'm with you on that one. (n/t)

esfergref January 27, 2012 08:27PM

Cosign. (n/t)

Artificial January 27, 2012 08:03PM

I dare you to make a svirf or cloud rager and manage a positive pk ratio.

Jerrokrar January 27, 2012 05:28PM

I loved my svirf and cloud ragers. Maybe you just need more practice since Boggom was horrible. n/t

jalim January 28, 2012 03:52AM

Only a delusional serial rager player could believe this:

tongni January 28, 2012 01:37AM

I was with you until you included Cloud giant in the mix.

Sam January 28, 2012 11:13AM

Why are you all not including duerg? (n/t)

alansmithee January 28, 2012 11:15AM

Well, two reasons.

Sam January 28, 2012 11:43AM

Already done it.

RobDarken January 28, 2012 12:56AM

The numbers disagree with you, sir. (n/t)

vortexmagus January 27, 2012 05:32PM

Beat me to it. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) January 27, 2012 05:33PM

Shifters are gnome, healers are elves, same age-old reasons (n/t)

Noone of significance January 27, 2012 02:42PM

Classes and Cabals are different to me. nt

K-B January 27, 2012 03:19PM

Being neutral is one less prep they are fighting against. (n/t)

Frosty January 27, 2012 02:30PM

Also helps against vanguard, while still giving them the freedom to kill whoever they want. (n/t)

vortexmagus January 27, 2012 03:43PM

There's an advantage in being able to fly for a Villager these days that did not used to be an issue. (n/t)

wrathpuppet January 27, 2012 01:54PM

Same 4 chickenshits can't play anything else. It's too hard. (n/t)

TaterPig January 27, 2012 01:41PM

So your solution to this is that someone else rolls a rager? (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) January 27, 2012 09:15PM

Don't get mad at me, I'm just saying the truth, brother. Direct quote "Whaddaya mean, bards don't get bash? Why even make the class available?" (n/t)

TaterPig January 28, 2012 03:50AM

That's a bit unfair.

satchmo January 27, 2012 02:58PM



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