Yeah I think my definition would pretty much drag in alot of baseballs players/coaches/trainers/head officials. The problem I have is that people just nodded and said move along. In that situation I would have said something, the problem is people did suggest things and were chastised (owner of the Padre's comes to mind) for trying to drag it out of the shadows. Maybe I am being idealistic in hoping that Id have the courage to stand up and say "these people are cheaters" but if you have appreciation for the game you do that.