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January 27, 2008 10:06PM
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Isildur
I'm pretty much in the same boat as Auburn. The highlights for me:

1. Contrary to the whole pro-life facade, funding to Title X (which in turn funds groups like Planned Parenthood) has gone up during his tenure. (The money doesn't go towards abortion directly, but funding other wings of PP allows it to shift more of its budget towards those that *are* involved in providing abortion services.)

2. Contrary to the whole "fiscal conservative" facade, federal spending has gone way up during his tenure, even discounting costs associated with the Iraq war.

3. No Child Left Behind sucks. Big time. So much for being the party of small government. But worse yet, it's not even "good" big government.

4. The Bush administration's handling of national security post-9/11 has been totally reactionary and heavy-handed. I'll freely admit that "something needed to be done", but creating a new Cabinet-level position and chucking lots of previously sacrosanct constitutional liberties out the window ain't it.

5. Opening up federally protected lands for oil drilling.

6. Mismanagement of the boom times. Rather than hand out tax cuts when things were going well, maybe use some of that extra cash to pay down the debt? Maybe save it for a rainy day like, oh, the next time there's a recession?

7. The Iraq thing. I have no problem with the U.S. "flaunting international law" and acting unilaterally (Don't forget Poland!), but only when it's warranted. Iraq doesn't qualify.

I agree with almost everything you say except I'd replace 6 with mismanagement of a triple crown. They could've pushed something meaningful (social security reform, etc) through. Instead, they did nothing. And #5, I don't really disagree with except indirectly. I don't think there should be federal land at all. Federal land more or less boils down to politician bargaining chips. IE, that land will go to someone and obviously it'll be someone who is rubbing elbows with a guy like Bush or whatever.

I have the same problem with Bush as I have with Barrack Obama. I agree with his assessments of what our problems are (usually, discounting gay marriage), but his solutions are fucking terrible.
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The Legacy of Bush

cenatar January 24, 2008 05:18AM

The exchange rate of the Euro...

Splntrd January 24, 2008 07:38AM

I'm affraid there's no denying the US dollars value has been slashed.

Yhorian(VIP) January 24, 2008 10:35AM

I can't speak for the rest but the Canadian Dollar is weaker than are IIRC. n/t

Pro January 24, 2008 11:22AM

I have to ask, do you think Bush has done a lot of good for the US?

Yhorian(VIP) January 24, 2008 04:19PM

I don't care enough about you or your country to discuss my national politics with you.

Pro January 26, 2008 08:42AM

His administration will go down as one of the worst all time

entropissed January 25, 2008 04:22AM

Bad. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 24, 2008 07:03PM

Re: Bad. txt

Death_Claw January 27, 2008 10:06PM

Re: Bad. txt

Bryan January 25, 2008 12:28PM

Re: Bad. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 25, 2008 12:48PM

Don't forget we're way past the point isolationism is reasonable.

Scrimbul January 25, 2008 01:24PM

It's not about isolationism.

Bryan January 25, 2008 03:56PM

Though I agree with the sentiment, I think you've got it wrong.

Yhorian(VIP) January 26, 2008 03:32AM

Re: Though I agree with the sentiment, I think you've got it wrong.

Isildur(VIP) January 26, 2008 09:23AM

Re: Though I agree with the sentiment, I think you've UN = Death to America.

Pro January 26, 2008 08:49AM

Re: It's not about isolationism.

Isildur(VIP) January 25, 2008 05:03PM

You know..

Pro January 26, 2008 08:56AM

Re: You know..

Isildur(VIP) January 26, 2008 09:26AM

Not from my point of view.

Pro January 27, 2008 11:37AM

You're getting off topic. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 27, 2008 05:02PM

Middle Class Welfare.

Death_Claw January 27, 2008 07:57PM

Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely. nt

Yhorian(VIP) January 26, 2008 03:35AM

Including you with your VIP power ;). Lord Acton was wise. NT

Sam January 26, 2008 12:29PM

WARNING! WOOT WOOT! WARNING!

Pro January 26, 2008 08:54AM

Which is why I long ago stopped arguing with you. Or even reading your posts :P nt

Yhorian(VIP) January 27, 2008 07:57AM

I was going to say, actually...txt

Isildur(VIP) January 26, 2008 05:14AM

I don't wish to get involved in the politics but on this statement, I agree.

istirith January 27, 2008 09:10AM

Re: It's not about isolationism.

Bryan January 25, 2008 06:14PM

Or race with you to build moar nukes nt

Scrimbul January 25, 2008 05:50PM

I dunno where we got that attitude either but keep in mind, alliances mean doing exactly that.

Scrimbul January 25, 2008 05:02PM

I did think Afghanistan was justified. But Iraq was just nuts. nt

Yhorian(VIP) January 24, 2008 08:04PM

btw, did you see the news story recently about Hussein & WMDs? txt

Isildur(VIP) January 25, 2008 08:29AM

This has long been a theory.

Pro January 26, 2008 09:02AM

Dont' worry Pro

Lokain January 26, 2008 04:17PM

If that was a threat.

Pro January 27, 2008 03:31PM

Hmph. That was just a joke about the said important-looking people..

DurNominator(VIP) January 28, 2008 12:24PM

I love how you totally failed to follow the thread

Lokain January 27, 2008 05:23PM

Lokain Marker of Death and Veiled Threats, Conspiracy Weaver of QHCF nt

hopelessdwarf January 28, 2008 11:50AM

I think that Iraq might have had "WMD programs"

DurNominator(VIP) January 25, 2008 12:22PM

The funnier (to me) thing is that the one Pakistani nuclear scientist tried to sell Saddam the stuff needed to make nuclear weapons, but he thought the guy was a US spy and had him thrown out of the country. LOL NT

Sam January 25, 2008 08:39AM

That man was Q.A. Khan

entropissed January 25, 2008 09:24AM

Ooh, may I?

The Forsaken(VIP) January 24, 2008 04:48PM

I agree with this.

Pro January 26, 2008 09:05AM

Um...not really. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 26, 2008 11:10AM

In my view, much of what has happened was inevitable with the cycle of things.

Scrimbul January 24, 2008 05:34PM

Not anymore it isn't. nt

nightshade January 24, 2008 12:15PM

I'm pretty sure that used to be true...

_Magus_ January 24, 2008 11:37AM

1 EUR = 1,4663 USD = 1,4893 CAD. nt

DurNominator(VIP) January 24, 2008 12:20PM

Okay, now you know it's bad. Moose stock is soaring!! nt

Yhorian(VIP) January 24, 2008 01:39PM

Indeed. CAD has strengthened a bit while USD has weakened.

DurNominator(VIP) January 25, 2008 02:39PM

And i bought in at the ground floor! I'm moose rich!

Hobotora January 24, 2008 03:48PM

There's no playing games with Euro.

DurNominator(VIP) January 24, 2008 09:14AM

Wait till the EU actually takes into account how much all the countries are lying n/t

hopelessdwarf January 24, 2008 08:54AM

Then it'll be amazing, because we'll fix the problems. n/t

Graham January 24, 2008 11:42PM

stupid. txt

Isildur(VIP) January 24, 2008 06:26AM

Well

cenatar January 24, 2008 06:42AM

Just fucking say it.

Pro January 24, 2008 06:48AM

If only you levelled that kind of honesty on yourself :) n/t

Balrahd(VIP) January 24, 2008 07:42AM

Hehehe

cenatar January 24, 2008 07:30AM



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