You are bad at this ;-)

March 28, 2012 12:47PM
I know you are mostly trolling and not really discussing to learn. But I will reply anyway:

Creatine: I will just post a review of several studies so you don't have to read that much. But it is pretty clear that creatine is good for performance.

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Creatine monohydrate (Cr) is perhaps one of the most widely used supplements taken in an attempt to improve athletic performance. The aim of this review is to update, summarise and evaluate the findings associated with Cr ingestion and sport and exercise performance with the most recent research available. Because of the large volume of scientific literature dealing with Cr supplementation and the recent efforts to delineate sport-specific effects, this paper focuses on research articles that have been published since 1999.Cr is produced endogenously by the liver or ingested from exogenous sources such as meat and fish. Almost all the Cr in the body is located in skeletal muscle in either the free (Cr: approximately 40%) or phosphorylated (PCr: approximately 60%) form and represents an average Cr pool of about 120-140 g for an average 70 kg person. It is hypothesised that Cr can act though a number of possible mechanisms as a potential ergogenic aid but it appears to be most effective for activities that involve repeated short bouts of high-intensity physical activity. Additionally, investigators have studied a number of different Cr loading programmes; the most common programme involves an initial loading phase of 20 g/day for 5-7 days, followed by a maintenance phase of 3-5 g/day for differing periods of time (1 week to 6 months). When maximal force or strength (dynamic or isotonic contractions) is the outcome measure following Cr ingestion, it generally appears that Cr does significantly impact force production regardless of sport, sex or age. The evidence is much more equivocal when investigating isokinetic force production and little evidence exists to support the use of Cr for isometric muscular performance. There is little benefit from Cr ingestion for the prevention or suppression of muscle damage or soreness following muscular activity. When performance is assessed based on intensity and duration of the exercises, there is contradictory evidence relative to both continuous and intermittent endurance activities. However, activities that involve jumping, sprinting or cycling generally show improved sport performance following Cr ingestion. With these concepts in mind, the focus of this paper is to summarise the effectiveness of Cr on specific performance outcomes rather than on proposed mechanisms of action. The last brief section of this review deals with the potential adverse effects of Cr supplementation. There appears to be no strong scientific evidence to support any adverse effects but it should be noted that there have been no studies to date that address the issue of long-term Cr usage.
[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Glutamine:
You first link indicated that one study found that it might be beneficial for marathon-runners for reducing the chance of infection. For someone that does not run 6 hours a day, not so much.

I guess you quickly googled your second link as it does not hold relevant information (it was about proteins and carbs after workout), but it does reference another study with Glutamine in. So I guess you meant to link that one?

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It is concluded that ingestion of a glutamine/carbohydrate mixture does not increase the rate of glycogen resynthesis in muscle.
[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

The rest of your links seems to be to people who want to sell you glutamine. The thing about it is that Glutamine had a big potential, that is why all the references you pasted (from the bodybuilding-article) goes to stuff like cancer patients and in vitro studies. People thought it could be translated to training and started to sell it.

The problem is that when people actually studied it to see if it would work. It did not.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2012 12:48PM by cenatar.
Subject Author Posted

Question on muscle aches for those of you who exercise regularly

starbright March 27, 2012 05:25AM

Eat real protein.

Death_Claw March 28, 2012 11:57AM

I think you worded it wrong.

DurNominator(VIP) March 28, 2012 11:06PM

Whey protein is real protein..

cenatar March 28, 2012 12:30PM

Death_Claw, the only poster to ever admit he doesn't read any posts before he replies.

Stevers March 28, 2012 12:28PM

Nice to see you little fags are still humming on my nuts for every post I make.

Death_Claw March 29, 2012 08:03AM

Daw, we made al queda mad. (n/t)

Matrik March 29, 2012 08:12AM

Yeah you did.

Death_Claw March 29, 2012 08:16AM

That sounds more reasonable.

Matrik March 29, 2012 08:20AM

Man, that's some original advice. Thanks for paying attention and not being repetitive. Always a pleasure. (n/t)

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:04PM

Sorry, your post to mine was a lot more helpful. n/t

Death_Claw March 28, 2012 12:06PM

Definitely. Let's people know they don't need to bother reading yours since you don't read anybody's. (n/t)

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:28PM

All it does is let people know you're a cunt who reads everyone of my posts and bitches about every one as well. n/t

Death_Claw March 29, 2012 08:09AM

Somebody has to sort through the garbage. It's ok, don't get your manicure messed up, I shall handle it. (n/t)

Matrik March 29, 2012 08:13AM

This is a lame work out thread. I much prefer the ones that get blown out of proportion like religion threads. (n/t)

Matrik March 28, 2012 09:04AM

ARE YOU SATISFIED YET?

Stevers March 28, 2012 12:29PM

Not yet, but close. Please provide at least 20x more posts. (n/t)

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:42PM

Count on it. n/t

Stevers March 28, 2012 12:46PM

I'll be counting them. n/t

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:46PM

God dammit people, everyone is just wrong.

cenatar March 27, 2012 11:51PM

Can you be more specific at why you saying i'm wrong here?

Engurd March 28, 2012 06:16PM

Acid to burning democracy which is the face of why you can't go, Engurd.

Batman March 29, 2012 01:53AM

Go away from me, you scabbed hitler jugend. (n/t)

Engurd March 29, 2012 07:12AM

Hitler Jugend? Sound like snake of liberal lie bit the venom into the mouth that feeds it.

Batman March 29, 2012 11:40AM

Joke was own made t:Batman (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) March 29, 2012 06:37PM

Sorry that the the truth hurts your extremist eyes. (n/t)

Engurd March 29, 2012 04:36PM

Re: Stevers is so right

Stevers March 28, 2012 08:52AM

You don't know what are talking about :-)

cenatar March 28, 2012 09:37AM

Re: You know everything, Stevers, genius to say the least

Stevers March 28, 2012 10:05AM

Re: You know everything, Stevers, genius to say the least

cenatar March 28, 2012 11:29AM

Re: You know everything, Stevers, genius to say the least

Stevers March 28, 2012 12:26PM

You are bad at this ;-)

cenatar March 28, 2012 12:47PM

You forgot to put "17" in your post. nt/

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:55PM

How, then, is glutamine useful for surgery? n/t

Stevers March 28, 2012 12:54PM

I don't know but I'm sure you can email some researcher and ask (n/t)

cenatar March 28, 2012 01:06PM

You're the one that brought it up.

Stevers March 28, 2012 01:07PM

You

cenatar March 28, 2012 01:11PM

It's not so much the smell,

Matrik March 28, 2012 01:12PM

Poor Cenatar still doesn't get it. n/t

Stevers March 28, 2012 01:15PM

Glutamine is especially important for determining whose butt is whose.

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:56PM

I can see how this would be useful post-surgery. n/t

Stevers March 28, 2012 12:58PM

Sigh, stop posting so fast and without indicators. You're messing up the count. Now it has to start over. (n/t)

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:59PM

No it doesn't. You said you were keeping count, I thought that meant I didn't have to. n/t

Stevers March 28, 2012 01:02PM

That's actually 16 and mine ended up being 15. nt

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:55PM

Misinfo. I got cut while doing strength training.

Matrik March 28, 2012 09:00AM

You must be stopped. (n/t)

RobDarken March 28, 2012 09:10AM

I'll get the armadillo suit n/t

Stevers March 28, 2012 09:11AM

That's not getting cut, it's called

Stevers March 28, 2012 09:09AM

Why can't we all just get awrong?

Batman March 28, 2012 12:40AM

Good guide, thanks (n/t)

starbright March 28, 2012 01:40AM

Re: Question on muscle aches for those of you who exercise regularly

Stevers March 27, 2012 10:12AM

Nice, thanks! (n/t)

starbright March 27, 2012 04:48PM

I can vouch for a lot, here.

Splntrd March 27, 2012 11:12AM

This is because of the lactic acid.

Engurd March 27, 2012 09:29AM

Wow, excellent post.

Stevers March 27, 2012 09:46AM

Muscle ache is normal, especially when you first start a routine. It means your muscles are rebuilding.

Jib March 27, 2012 07:41AM

This is true.

DurNominator(VIP) March 27, 2012 08:01AM

silly metric

Quas March 27, 2012 06:25AM

Thanks, sounds about right. Spoke to a trainer at the gym just now and she said the same thing.

starbright March 27, 2012 08:14AM

you forgot to mention stretching. (n/t)

Demtok March 27, 2012 06:45AM

stretching is sort of a myth

Quas March 27, 2012 08:24AM

Misinfo.

Stevers March 27, 2012 10:16AM

quick research

Quas March 27, 2012 11:05AM

Re: quick research

Stevers March 28, 2012 12:58PM

We were talking about useless post quantity and boring every-week discussions.

Matrik March 28, 2012 12:59PM

OT is often a boring board, but it is the least most-boring board.

Stevers March 28, 2012 01:09PM

On the contrary, I have tons of fun.

Matrik March 28, 2012 01:13PM

I'm still waiting on the sports board to get shut down. n/t

Stevers March 28, 2012 01:16PM

I think the issues lies in

Splntrd March 27, 2012 10:38PM

Re: Question on muscle aches for those of you who exercise regularly

Kez March 27, 2012 05:58AM



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