Reposted by my request to myself.

March 25, 2014 05:41AM
The really incredible thing is that there have been so few attempts to truly and logically marry our observations of the Multiverse with the myriad superstitions and faiths that enrich our cultures and cause untold bloodshed and genocide. What I'm hammering at, besides the maid, is that there are even specific markers, if one is willing to stretch out and sedate one's sense of pragmatism. Consider the premise of mitochondrial DNA- a permanent, evolving record of the growth, mutation, and development of the species that exists within each cell and is passed by a direct female line of descent. The possibility exists, then, that on a microgenetic level, our cells have an ambiently-aware record of the whole of human history- potentially unlockable. Extrapolate this to our astronomical observations: In the first minute following the Big Bang, there were equal amounts of matter and anti-matter. These, when they meet, annihilate one another, being for all intents and purposes opposites of one another. (Positrons and Anti-Protons instead of Electrons and Protons). Consider, as my mentor Svlad Cjelli taught, the fundamental interconnectedness of all things. Consider the Multiverse as a macroscopic entity with chaotic swirling guts of which we are a subatomic ass-crease. Is it not possible, given that we arose from heavy elements spewed by supernovae across the cosmos, that our quivering energy packets remember the great conflict that followed the beginning of our all? If, for example, some faiths speak of a War in Heaven, could this not logically follow as a sort of collective consciousness remembrance, in the critical moments when the balance tipped, and the asymmetry of the Universe became a mystery? (It is perfectly reasonable to assume, given modern understanding, that one parallel Universe must probably exist, wherein the antimatter holds sway- black hole gateways, anyone?)

Addendum: Given a multiverse, a defined field of existence with multiple universes (each having a different representative dark energy/matter content as the latest theories go), we are obviously NOT in possession of a full catalog of the energy fields that comprise the whole of reality, and we are apparently still painfully unaware of elements such as the size and scale of the WHOLE cosmos. Multiverse theory is a super-Copernican revolution in the way we understand, well, everything. One of the nagging questions has always been, "If there was a 'Big Bang', what came before it, and what sparked it? Essentially, the idea of 'nothingness' is big in the mind of athestic/agnostic/secular thought, and leaves the arena open and well ripe for the imposition of some form of organized religion." More and more, the work of astrophysicists points toward our Universe being a cell, one of countless (the math projects 10 to the 500 different Universes as a solid probability {as solid as any theory can be in this field}) that, given our study of life from the subatomic to the ecosystem, suggests a composition rather like a living organism or organ system- each Universe performing its metabolic and thermal functions as some supporting role to the greater (Q).

The idea of Deep Time and a geologic or even galactic time scale would seem to me to fit so very well with most faiths, anyway- the timeless nature of the stars, our only true visible deities from whence we were spewed (see Coriakin, Ramandu, Akhenaten, et al.). Bill Nye reaches out with his careworn face and his thinly veiled contempt to express that Creationism is not appropriate for children, and I want to jump up from my massage chair in the mall, unzip and start waving the ol' bald Jesuit at people until they listen to the important secular wisdom... until I remember that diversity and pain are the only two true educational precepts, and that toaster strudel probably contains lead-based paint. Bill's making a garage sale out of assertiveness training, and he's taking the last barrel of Legos and melting them on hot lightbulbs in his bedroom so they bubble and stick to his fingers. He enjoys the pain, but not sexually. In summary, pay your dues to the Society of the Second Coming of the Great Prophet Zarquon.
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Any of you who don't believe in(aka understand) evolution watch Cosmos this week?

ORB March 20, 2014 06:34AM

I believe in evolution...

Death_Claw March 21, 2014 11:38AM

Have you looked at the evidence for religion?

vortexmagus March 29, 2014 09:27AM

I never said I believed in the bible.

Death_Claw March 31, 2014 04:51AM

Perhaps our definitions conflict, then.

vortexmagus March 31, 2014 05:33PM

Agnosticism speaks against scripture as evidence. (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) April 03, 2014 06:58AM

Just for fun

PaulO March 31, 2014 06:08PM

It's certainly an interesting idea

vortexmagus April 01, 2014 12:36AM

Watching you talk about your ideas of logic is like reading a Scrumbul post on game balance. Long, boring, and not much is really said. (n/t)

Matrik March 29, 2014 04:02PM

It's quite simple really

Rade March 24, 2014 06:08PM

It goes a bit deeper than that...

Death_Claw March 25, 2014 05:00AM

There are forms of spirituality that don't involve fantasy or gods

Rade March 26, 2014 05:06AM

My opinion

bloodmoon March 25, 2014 05:28AM

Reposted by my request to myself.

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) March 25, 2014 05:41AM

Reposted from Reddit (not my words): Why do people think the same standard of truth we apply to everything else doesn't apply to religion?

vortexmagus March 31, 2014 03:28AM

I agree fully, with elaboration!

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) April 03, 2014 06:43AM

Lao Tzu does it better and Best...

Matrik April 03, 2014 08:25AM

This is a bad question. What is the "standard of truth" for which everyone shares? People will bicker on what "truth" actually means, despite the 'truth' being quite simple.

Srev March 31, 2014 09:51AM

actually that reddit post was one of the best analogies I have ever read on the topic

Quas March 31, 2014 11:19AM

Yes, and you're the world's best hub for analogies on the topic.

Srev April 11, 2014 07:22AM

Hey look guys, another Zeathiest. As dangerous to science as religion. (n/t)

Matrik March 24, 2014 07:50PM

It's more the other way around, why so many uneducated religious zealots trying to stop it being taught in schools. (n/t)

ORB March 24, 2014 11:10AM

"In my opinion, having the same beliefs that I have make you the most humble, more humble than all the rest"

Srev March 22, 2014 06:41PM

Heh, yeah I'm a retard.

Death_Claw March 24, 2014 10:23AM

Atheistic zealots have a hard time understanding that language evolves.

Matrik March 24, 2014 11:32AM

At least it doesn't mean crappy music anymore. (n/t)

MiyagiYojimbo March 24, 2014 01:26PM

Love is what I've got. Remember that. (n/t)

Matrik March 24, 2014 01:49PM

Ret'su Get to Fiyor!!

MiyagiYojimbo March 24, 2014 04:18PM

Re: I believe in evolution...

lurk March 21, 2014 11:58AM

I'm surprised you do believe in evolution.

tesline March 20, 2014 04:56PM

Aren't you supposed to be at boot camp?

Hoffy March 20, 2014 07:29PM

I leave this SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY.

tesline March 21, 2014 01:16AM

friday, friday, got to go out on friday.

Quas March 21, 2014 08:40AM

I've liked you up until this point....

bloodmoon March 21, 2014 10:11PM

Nothing a little Tom Waits imitation can't cure

MiyagiYojimbo March 22, 2014 08:55PM

I don't even get it, so I must be better than you. (n/t)

Matrik March 21, 2014 10:26PM

keep your head down and good luck (n/t)

morocco March 21, 2014 05:33AM

Who doesn't believe in evolution?

chuntog March 20, 2014 04:51PM

Hoooooooo boy.

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) March 22, 2014 06:38PM

Don't you dare speak of Texas in the same vein as Louisiana.

Matrik March 22, 2014 11:21PM

HA! I'll admit....

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) March 25, 2014 05:02AM

Truth. (n/t)

Matrik March 25, 2014 05:04AM

I met one person who didn't.

MiyagiYojimbo March 21, 2014 01:23AM

I'm Jelly..

legobelt March 20, 2014 05:25PM

Comments as I watch.

PaulO March 20, 2014 02:32PM

Did you watch the original?

Matrik March 20, 2014 05:53PM

Nope

PaulO March 24, 2014 07:36AM

Addition: Today's Dogma

Matrik March 24, 2014 08:58AM

Your view of it seems backwards, and I can understand the apparent offense you take.

Matrik March 24, 2014 08:41AM

I don't think it is attacking religion, at least not outrightly.

PaulO March 24, 2014 10:18AM

I think it's not so nefarious as you imagine

Rade March 30, 2014 07:14PM

Maybe.

Matrik March 24, 2014 11:30AM

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe.

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) March 25, 2014 06:19AM

Re: Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe.

PaulO March 25, 2014 07:41AM

Huuuuuuuuuurmmmmmmmmmmm........

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) March 26, 2014 03:57AM

Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..........

PaulO March 26, 2014 04:57AM

dogs selected for their cuteness

morocco March 20, 2014 03:35PM

Sure, to some degree

PaulO March 20, 2014 06:06PM

redefinition

morocco March 21, 2014 05:38AM

Wow thanks for sharing that. I feel like I have more of a life now. n/t

jalim March 20, 2014 02:56PM

Anyone who doesn't understand it already isn't going to. The lines are drawn and those with blind faith in Jebus are already on their side. (n/t)

Doof March 20, 2014 01:28PM

I just don't understand why having faith in a religion means you have to not believe in evolution. (n/t)

Matrik March 20, 2014 01:34PM

Don't you know there's no such thing as religion?

lurk March 21, 2014 12:10PM

Who says it does?

chuntog March 20, 2014 04:55PM

That was kind of my point.

Matrik March 20, 2014 05:40PM

I don't understand it, either. I blame Jebus. (n/t)

Doof March 20, 2014 02:12PM

it doesn't. there are plenty of people (foremost, Francis Collins, leader of the HGP) who believe in both

morocco March 20, 2014 01:59PM

It's not. It's a consistency and logic thing.

vortexmagus March 29, 2014 09:09AM

Did you really? It's a dumbass thing, not a political thing. (n/t)

Doof March 20, 2014 02:14PM

i'm not saying it's not dumb, but the justification is usually, ultimately political (n/t)

morocco March 20, 2014 03:28PM

'cause the Bible! Rawr! (n/t)

legobelt March 20, 2014 01:51PM

Re: Any of you who don't believe in(aka understand) evolution watch Cosmos this week?

(vಠ_ಠ)> AngryFatKid March 20, 2014 08:41AM

yes, tell us so we can make fun of you! (n/t)

morocco March 20, 2014 12:04PM

Infidel! (n/t)

Artificial March 20, 2014 11:00AM



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