December 11, 2012 01:10AM
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And I really hate that mindset. I don't care if you identify with being a girl, or a guy, or a lizard, or a tree - You are NONE of those things. You ARE what you biologically are. Disguise it if you will, but I still feel that claiming absolute factual X'ness (male/female/lizard/whatever) is deceptive at minimum.
The quality of those arguments falls directly in line with the same illogical presentation that the privilege movement, neo-feminist, fat-acceptance, etc. all do. They're nonsense and based on FEELING rather than FACT - and I, as a dirty Batman, find that to be ridiculous.
I bring this up because I could argue on this topic FOREVER - I cannot emphasize how much I dislike the idea that an individual's feelings of identification or action choice should effect actually basic biological measurements or anything else. I compare it to all of the identification movements (If you're unfamiliar with Transableism, google it. It's when you identify with being crippled despite not being crippled, but get offended when people say you're not crippled - And yes, they think it's as factual as trans people think their movement is).
The worst part to me is that I sincerely and genuinely don't mind however people want to dress or look. I mind when that feeling they have makes them think they can make reality reflect that, or when they feel that they can abolish the rights of others just to make things match with their feelings. You can't just change facts, that's not how things work - You'll see this tactic often in politics too, whether it be the right about climate change, or the left about the right (I went there).
I get it, some people want to be a gender they weren't born with. Whatever, feel free to be a faggot/lesbo/transvestite or even get a surgery to alter your genetalia. But that does not erase who or what you are at all. Me putting on a cop's uniform doesn't make me a cop. You putting on a Shrek costume doesn't make you Shrek (Check yourself before you Shrek yourself - I should stop because my time here is ogre). Anyway, it's just a big annoying thing to me because so many people within these movements are emotionally hyped and charged and not objective or evaluative. This is why I hate people.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/11/2012 01:30AM by Batman.
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