December 11, 2012 09:44AM
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RobDarken
You'd think since, as you've claimed in the past "transfolk have a hard life" you'd have been humbled a bit by the experience and that maybe your perspective on people may have broadened a bit. Instead you've developed both a prejudice against men and a sense of entitlement (evidenced by the notion that because one identifies as female, they must be recognized as such, even extending to sexuality and relationships). And now Pro thinks fascism is socialism. But I think this goes beyond differing views just because this kind of thread happens so often with you.
Sure, my perspective has broadened in a lot of ways. It's also narrowed in other ways. Maybe when you stop being angry and transition, you'll adopt a new perspective, too. :-)
Not really sure where the "entitlement" thing comes in? Yes, I identify as female. My name is changed, my bathroom usage has changed, my documents are changed, my body has changed, and I'm never not a female in public or private. One might expect a small modicum of respect towards that decision, whether you agree with it or not. Being called a "dude in a dress and a wig" is not acceptable. Can you even see how I might be a *little* upset by that?
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RobDarken
I bet you wonder why this thread wound up being about you being tranny. It's because you've set and reinforced that dynamic time and time again. But somehow I get the impression you expect it not to come up. Which is silly, because when you announce it to everyone on the board, then later post a picture of you dressed as a female, you should expect SOME kind of comment on it. You could have just not announced it to begin with, and then maybe something different would happen here, you could have even just waited for a time when it was more relevant, but you wanted to be recognized for it right? Yet you only want to be recognized the way you want to be.
I'm fine with being transgendered. I said "tranny" in a comment because I was referring to the reaction I often get regarding others and their sexuality. Recognizing that I am transgendered doesn't bother me. References to my former gender in a derogatory manner do bother me.
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RobDarken
How many people here besides you have started a thread about their sexuality or gender identity/preference? But it's never even a discussion, despite how caustic people here can be we always manage to have some kind of discussion, but in your case when this topic comes up it just devolves into you saying all men are pigs or something to that effect. You go for the validation and then you're upset when you don't get it from EVERYONE the way you want.
Yes! Rob, look at what this discussion has become? Some of this has been an interesting debate. Some of it is just degrading and infuriating. Do you possibly think that I expected everyone to be like "Hey! Wow! You look amazing!?" here? Fuck no. Did I expect there to be some debate? Yes. Did I expect to be called a dude in a dress? No, and that's what riled me up.
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RobDarken
The silly thing is that it's NOT because you're transsexual. I post 3-7 times a day and nothing ever winds up being on that topic. Why? I don't feel the need to make sure every last person here knows. Nobody rejects me for it because I don't go for their validation to begin with. Why would they care? You have and still seem to. It's not special. It's not because they have anything against it. But when you take a stance on the subject that is fundamentally untrue, people will disagree, and when you make claims that make you seem really full of yourself (like the suggestion that anyone will fap to that picture), it's not always going to be pretty, anybody who's watched Jerrokrar here should know that.
You are like the guy everyone knows is genuinely prejudiced against women, and then is surprised when people respond negatively to him making indirectly derogatory comments about women and think it's supposed to be funny (whereas it might have been funny otherwise). Which is something I am sure you would go apeshit over, it's just terribly ironic to me.
Also even the biological females who have been here (and were pretty rare) never shouted "IMA GIRL LOOK AT ME" for attention. Or posted any pictures as far as I can tell.
You are right. I did something different. Because transgenderism is a subject I find fascinating, I like to bring up the subject for debate. No one else has posted a picture saying "Look at me!", so I did. Aside from the resulting negative response, I also got to see what some of you look like, which I think is kinda cool.
It's also obvious that I like to debate, which is why on any post I start, I'm the one who responds the most. It's almost like I'm the girl who likes to challenge ideas and beliefs and then gets surprised when she gets called something derogatory in response. Where was I expressly combative or insulting to anyone *before* they started attacking me or said something disrespectful of transwomen? I passionately try to defend what I believe in, and I make statements with confidence. Yet, I'm also the one who gets their words picked apart when I make bold statements because my views differ from people like Java and you.
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