December 12, 2012 02:04PM
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We have a different stance on it, period. It's different for me because I'm not you and don't have the same expectations. I'll try to be thorough though so you know what you're dealing with. Of course, last time I did something similar to this you dismissed me based on age alone, saying my brain was too undeveloped, trying to give the benefit of the doubt here :/.
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Baroness
The reason that I ask is because there is a clear distinction in being "stealth" and not having achieved it yet. Things are... easier? Less complicated? when everyone looks at you and judges you to be the gender you present yourself to be. People tend to be less discriminatory and prejudiced, more tolerant, and less inclined to take out their homophobia on you.
I don't know you and your situation. I don't know if you work a great job and make good money or if you're stuck somewhere you don't want to be. My experience thus far has been that when people perceive you as deviating from the social norms, your opportunities to be successful (in a career and monetary sense) become more limited in an inverse relationship. Breaking with gender norms is a huge taboo in our culture and one of those things that carries great weight (at least right now in Western society). However, the same would apply to things like being Deaf, outwardly goth, confined to a wheelchair, or having very noticeable face tattoos. People judge and label you based on outward presentation.
I haven't seen much homophobia in this day and age except from niggers, since they are still using the kind of language the majority of white people did when gays were just entering normal society. But then I don't go looking for it so I can say my life is hard. And it's pretty easy to avoid conflict if you don't try to shove "acceptance" down other people's throats. I haven't met a person who didn't tolerate it at least without a word, and I live in the south so... Har har. Next to no contact with my family, so they don't know. When I talked about it at my last job nobody thought twice about it, even seemed generally supportive. I know one girl at work liked me and looked a little confused when I eventually mentioned it, and then stopped flirting with me.
Been on whoremoans for maybe a year? Hips now, bubble butt, tinier waist, cleaner skin and little titties, my hair UNTHINNED, and there is a very noticeable difference in how my legs look muscularly speaking. So I'm more than a little satisfied with the progress so far (whoo youth). Really early into it I was still dressing like a guy and got mistaken for a girl a few times anyway. I tend to wear gender neutral clothes that lean on the girly side and flatter my figure, nobody says anything or even seems to notice. Started presenting as female (voice, clothes, some degree of mannerism) in between school semesters about 7 months in, I don't socialize and live pretty much entirely solitary, so there is nobody around to even know the difference,I don't hang with people who don't me entirely and I don't think I've ever even seen my neighbors up close, but I've always been that way, I have 2-3 close friends and thazzit. I don't like people, I'm sure they respond more to that than how I dress.
I'd imagine that's where our experience really starts to differ, I don't date and I don't tell people about it, I don't participate in sports or anything similar, I don't do bars and I don't spend time on people unless I really, genuinely enjoy them. I have enough friends in my mind. I'm pretty broke, I've got what I saved working for a long while to support myself (and I worked before living alone to support the expenses of this choice in the first place), and currently I have nothing but the remainder of a school financial aid grant as income. I'll need a job again soon so I can eat properly again. I've never gotten around to legal changes because it's never really been an issue for me. I "pass" alright I think, due to having a tiny frame and not being too tall to start, but I always assume people might be able to tell just because I find it really easy to spot a tranny. Everyone but an old physics teacher so far seemed to take a hint and didn't call out a name for me despite having my real name on chart, which got some odd looks but I didn't care because I don't talk to people anyway.
Now if I did care to do these things? I'm sure I'd find any nit-picking or exclusion over it annoying, but it's not like I think it's something that should be abolished from society. I am pretty okay with the idea of exclusion, as it doesn't intrude on me personally, just like how I thought the long hair thing was silly but am still okay with it. It is true that I'm gifted to have despised people and company since youth to begin with, so exclusion isn't really an issue as I do it to myself.
My close friends tend to say he if they're talking about me and there is nobody around who doesn't (need to) know better, but I kind of don't mind being viewed as a boy who is very girly (in multiple ways), as it's what I am. Let's say I were romantic with a guy, I wouldn't really care if he called me he even privately because if I am with him there is still going to be the social dynamic of a feminine and masculine partner, as it's what I desire. I'm perfectly fine with being known as a boy who's just like a girl except when it's very inconvenient formally, and don't mind being acknowledged accordingly. And knowing that I am actually a man, there is a certain pleasant quality about being just like a girlfriend to someone even though I'm a boy.
It's really just something I largely prefer, it's way more comfy to me. I haven't managed to delude myself into thinking that I'm a "girl on the inside" and I'm not really interested in doing so. I think you just identify with that idea way too hard. If I am pretty and have the leniency to be "cute" in the ways I want, I don't care. Not much sympathy for ugly man trannies as I don't think you should subject other people to do that if you're not going to be either pleasant or unpainful to look at.
That pretty much cover it?
last edit to add: I think the only time I don't present female is that I sometimes use male voice for games like dota/hon where people already knew me as a guy, depending on who is who and my mood, it's simpler sometimes. In person or with any kind of company I don't think it's acceptable behavior.
edit edit again to condense for tl;dr: In other words, I do not buy transgender as I don't really buy gender to start with. The appeal to me is embodying what is appreciable about the feminine sex and what is culturally feminine in most societies to a degree that it's essentially the same. Except on Dios, because I hate everyone on Dios.
Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2012 02:26PM by RobDarken.
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