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No, it is evidence that you don't know how much gear changes PK. Gear will always be precious because it increases your character's power level tremendously. Now, if stats on gear were adjusted down, it might actually work the way you described... but this isn't the trend we're seeing in CF; instead more OP stuff surfaces, and with the removal of edge points (e.g. of ways to make the *character* more powerful) more emphasis is placed on gear.

I feel competitive enough even when I wear almost nothing, or roleplay equipment. Shaapa beats ass naked. That's proof you are wrong. No one is even saying you have to run naked. You have plenty of time as a ghost to build a set and you don't have to die. You can still play chicken like you do already and keep your precious set forever.

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I don't read "world is falling" posts. And there are deeper issues with CF roleplay that should be addressed instead of removing these concessions that keep the game fun while preserving its competitive character. I'd be happy to clarify but it'd require a lot more time.

The first step to fixing role play is treating your enemies like enemies. Full loot + Sacrifice.

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Yeah, they died... in hell, while getting more OP gear.

Do I really need to link to the logs on .info of Glik dying and screaming conspiracy? Can you point to any recent PBFs of highly geared, highly deadly characters with 0 deaths? That's not even getting into the fact that death isn't the only way to de-gear someone. Thieves can strike pretty well on that front, and before the carebear shit mechanic of "broken" gear came into being, many warriors and invokers could too. Good point Murphy, actually. We need to get rid of the repair function and return broken gear to being perma-broken. Can't believe I didn't think of that!

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Were it not for sportsmanship, I'd stop playing already. And you don't speak for most people either.

I don't claim to speak for most people. You did. Were it not for sportsmanship, I'd be playing. Now we are a net-neutral. I can also logically argue how/why sportsmanship drove away every single player that has left because of "X" issue. You won't be able to argue against me because we already live in your reality and it cost us players. Until my suggestion is tried, we don't know how it will affect numbers. We do know that the player base was jamming back when full loot/sac was default.

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History of war doesn't have ghosts coming back to get gear from corpse. Your analogy is incorrect because CF's realities are completely different. And like I said already, if you defeated an enemy, go ahead and loot what you can use. I'm only against destroying stuff out of spite/to make someone else's playtime less fun.

Exactly. It's even more logical that the victor take the spoils in a world where the dead don't stay dead. I don't destroy anything out of spite and I'm not suggesting anyone do that. I'm suggesting people take and/or destroy everything in order to make the game more fun for everyone.

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FWIW, Monopoly can be quite cruel and it encourages depriving your opponent of their property.
Carrion Fields, on the other hand, encourages destroying your enemy. Not their gear.
And by no means am I expecting everyone to play the way I want. That would be stupid. You are the one demanding that people play a certain way here.

I'm not demanding anything. I'm just stating facts. Sportsmanship killed CF and if full loot/sac becomes default, Carrion Fields becomes a better game. I didn't call anyone an ass for NOT looting. You called me an ass for advocating looting. You're demanding. I'm not.

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Right, I figured the new you would eventually slip into making uninformed conclusions and implying things about me as a person instead of arguing your point.

I didn't imply anything about you. You implied and I inferred. Also, it has nothing to do with you as a person. It has to do with your words and your arguments. Why would I speak about who Murphy is if I have never met Murphy? In this space, I can only imply or infer things regarding the Murphy persona you present. It's not my fault if you present a persona in which losing text-based equipment equates to suffering.

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If CF ever does embrace your ideas, I will stop playing immediately. For now, it conforms more to my ideal than to yours. E.g. most people do have sportsmanship. So I continue playing.

Right, meanwhile everyone else has left because this isn't Carrion Fields anymore.

Sportsmanship killed CF