I'll respond just for fun.

September 06, 2019 10:01AM
We won't get into the media. It's not like anyone could argue Fox News doesn't paint liberal democrats in a pretty terrible light, much as the other outlets do to republicans and Trump supporters. The media has simply lost the one thing that made it valuable to the public. Objective neutrality.

I know plenty of people who voted for him, most of my family included. None of them are the stereotypical hillbilly middle of the country type people that any one who voted for him is so often falsely portrayed as. They're regular people, and they made a choice, and they'll make another one in 2020, not that it matters in Maryland anyway since the electoral college negates any meaning to the vote.

I still have a hard time trying to believe Hillary Clinton really would have been a better president for this country. I probably just would not hate things quite as much because hopefully she would not have felt the incessant need to tweet out things all day long. Most of which are demonstrably false. But Trump simply could never make the pivot away from campaigner for president to actually being president, and well, that's where we are today and I think is why a large part of the country hates him so passionately. He simply does not know how to rise above things in a manner befitting the office he holds. Who the fuck cares if Alec Baldwin does a shitty impersonation of you on SNL, you're the president of the USA and he's an actor.

1) There are right and wrong ways to execute the laws of this country. Unfortunately, the executive branch too often oversteps it's own authority and engages in quasi-legislating. Not just with Trump, but all president's are guilty of this. Interpreting the law is the job of courts, not executives. OF course the legislature gives too broad a discretion to agencies to begin with. Trump's bigger problem is not having very good people helming his offices. But what highly qualified person would really want to work directly under him anyway? He seems like a very disagreeable person to work for.

2) I have no problem with freedom of speech or peaceful civil debate. I also have no problem with people being responsible and accountable for what that speech is and what it does. The status of political discourse in a civil fashion is appalling in this country. Again, I find Trump to be the result of this degradation of the political landscape, not the cause. People were all too willing to embrace his campaign style instead of reject it. That says more about us than it does about the man smart enough to capitalize on it.

I'm against the overt PCness of our society as a whole, but at the same time, you want to go around inciting people with rhetoric, you're responsible for the result. You want to sling insults, don't be surprised when it comes back on you. Freedom of speech is not a shield. It's a right, the exercise of which can and will have consequences depending on the speech. Now that said, it's a little ridiculous about the sensitivities people claim to have about things. Damned snowflakes.

3) I'm not sure I agree with your statement, but I don't spend time reading economic theory. I do know no CEO is worth anything remotely close to what they are paid, but hey, that's how it is and it's not changing. Instead of letting economic benefits trickle down to the lower wage earners, how about just paying it to those lower wage earners directly. What difference does it make who does the spending after all? If the same 5 million gets spent, the benefit should be the same.

4) The democrats rarely ever have and from a personal view point I rather hate them and their entire stance on most things (but I will always be pro choice). I have voted for one democrat in one election. Most of the time more of my main issues align with republican view points (well libertarian to be honest- but that party is going nowhere) and so I vote for them.

And quite honestly Mitch McConnell is a far more vile person to me than Trump ever could be, and he is a far bigger symbol of all that is wrong with American government.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2019 10:01AM by zannon.
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Holy. Shit.

GoldenApple August 27, 2019 11:02AM

Even if its true.. what's the holy shit?

kadsuane September 04, 2019 03:24AM

He has a muslim fetish

MiyagiYojimbo September 04, 2019 09:29AM

In psychology, we call this "projection".

GoldenApple September 05, 2019 12:25AM

She's just intensely dislikeable.

Death_Claw September 05, 2019 05:17AM

Only to the far-right

GoldenApple September 05, 2019 06:33AM

"very likely the future of the American left"

PaulO September 10, 2019 05:42AM

She polled 9% approval among swing state Democrats.

Death_Claw September 06, 2019 02:35AM

Hey buddy get out of here with that we choose our own truths and feelings over facts round these parts. n/t

jalim September 06, 2019 03:26AM

I love when you talk about facts in this particular spectrum..

kadsuane September 09, 2019 05:00AM

Not sure what you mean.

jalim September 09, 2019 05:25AM

Mostly that you almost always ignore actual facts and your go to medium for information seems to be memes.

kadsuane September 09, 2019 08:52AM

Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about Pinochet?

MiyagiYojimbo September 09, 2019 08:27AM

As a dirty half-breed mutt

MiyagiYojimbo September 05, 2019 08:42AM

The far left is not the future of anything really

zannon September 05, 2019 08:27AM

It never ceases to amaze me...

Death_Claw September 06, 2019 07:04AM

"People who call everyone else [racist, et al.] see no issue making sweeping ignorant generalizations."

The Faithful of Nazmorghul October 26, 2019 02:13PM


Death_Claw September 06, 2019 07:17AM

I am pretty sure reality has repeatedly shown trickle down economics are a fairytale

Quas September 06, 2019 05:02PM

Somewhat disagree...

Sam February 09, 2020 06:42PM


Death_Claw September 06, 2019 07:50PM

Enlighten me. How does it work?

Quas September 07, 2019 02:19AM

Re: Enlighten me. How does it work?

Death_Claw November 04, 2019 12:06PM

Le sigh

Quas November 05, 2019 02:45AM

So help me out here..

jalim November 05, 2019 05:29AM

Re: So help me out here..

Quas November 06, 2019 02:40AM

The companies in question..

jalim November 06, 2019 04:34AM

Re: Le sigh

Death_Claw November 05, 2019 03:52AM

Re: Le sigh

Quas November 05, 2019 05:22AM

Re: Le sigh

Death_Claw November 05, 2019 07:02AM

i think you've had a lot of kool-aid

The Forsaken(VIP) November 21, 2019 04:33PM

RE: Capitalism disproportionately rewards the one with the capital vs. the laborer

jalim November 22, 2019 06:48AM

No I don't

The Forsaken(VIP) November 22, 2019 07:12AM

It comes down to negotiating power

daurwyn November 22, 2019 09:38AM

professional sports

Quas November 22, 2019 12:24PM

You're being simplistic with this argument....and wrong in a lot of ways.

Sam February 09, 2020 06:52PM

Re: You're being simplistic with this argument....and wrong in a lot of ways.

Quas April 25, 2020 05:20AM

They DO have a great deal of leverage. It's just that very few of them know how to use it. (n/t)

Frosty November 22, 2019 03:06PM

Regarding the concentration of wealth in general...

Death_Claw November 05, 2019 04:11AM

Keep repeating the lie often enough... someone eventually will believe it

kadsuane September 10, 2019 09:20AM

2019 calling the 1980s...still waiting for that trickle down (n/t)

HairyOrangutan September 06, 2019 07:36PM

I'll respond just for fun.

zannon September 06, 2019 10:01AM

I agree with nearly everything you've said except for that slander against Cocaine Mitch

Sam February 09, 2020 06:54PM

Re: I'll respond just for fun.

Death_Claw September 06, 2019 08:26PM

This is hilarious.

Frosty September 05, 2019 08:13AM

It's over, we're done.

MiyagiYojimbo September 05, 2019 08:20AM

Well at least we know. Not knowing is the worst! (n/t)

Frosty September 05, 2019 08:56AM

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